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Black refugees ask if Utah will really accept them
Reuters ^ | September 9, 2005

Posted on 09/09/2005 2:35:47 PM PDT by RWR8189

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To: RWR8189

With any luck their time in Utah will make them realize that they've been the victims of liberal propaganda all those years in New Orleans.


61 posted on 09/09/2005 3:07:23 PM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: TontoKowalski

thanks for your advice, but I think he was talking from his own personal experience.


62 posted on 09/09/2005 3:08:09 PM PDT by bethtopaz (We will not allow another generation of heroes to be forsaken. -- NewLand, from Free Republic)
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To: Clemenza

LOL... I've always wondered - where exactly is Caucasia???


63 posted on 09/09/2005 3:08:17 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: Hendrix
grammer

That would be 'grammar'.

64 posted on 09/09/2005 3:09:10 PM PDT by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties FLAWLESSLY, zero mistakes)
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To: RWR8189

Question: does the Latter-Day Saints church (Mormons) still hold a tenet that black people cannot attain the highest level of afterlife, or hold high office in the LDS church? I grew up in an area of the East coast (DC) which had quite a few Mormon families, and these ideas of mine may have been misunderstood by me from talking with Mormon classmates, or overturned by the LDS church since then.


65 posted on 09/09/2005 3:09:47 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Judge not, unless ye be a God-fearing originalist)
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To: Muzzle_em

i've experienced that myself. Black women tend to get very angry, in general, when they see Black guys with white women. However, I have lots of Black female friends as well as guys. I think it's important to be able to talk about it. There's still a lot of discomfort. Plus, I've made lots of comments on this website and have gotten many more replies from this one comment than any I've made in a year! Interesting!


66 posted on 09/09/2005 3:10:21 PM PDT by bethtopaz (We will not allow another generation of heroes to be forsaken. -- NewLand, from Free Republic)
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To: RWR8189
"In New Orleans, being a young black man, you get harassed a lot, stereotyped a lot," he said.

I'll bet if he lost the dreadlocks, dressed neatly, spoke politely and dropped the attitude he'd get a lot less of it. Look like part of the subculture and you risk being treated like part of it!

67 posted on 09/09/2005 3:11:25 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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To: bethtopaz
Some of my heros are black, hence that is why I use Hendrix as my name on this board (for Jimi Hendrix). I have great respect for anybody as long as they are not a racist, and that includes black racists. Jesse Jackson is the kind of person who I don't have any respect for because he is a racist IMO. Condeleza (spelling?) Rice, on the other hand, is a hero of mine.
68 posted on 09/09/2005 3:11:29 PM PDT by Hendrix
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To: xrp

Typo. I make a lot of typos and misspellings because I type fast and don't take the time to check my spelling (don't even use the spell checker half the time).


69 posted on 09/09/2005 3:13:12 PM PDT by Hendrix
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To: Recovering_Democrat; nicmarlo

They were SO afraid of how they'd be treated in Tucson, that this was plastered on our front page today. I can't imagine the outcry if the words were changed to "white" and the situation reversed. Tucson is not exactly a hotbed of segregation and racism!

"Tucson blacks prominent in evacuee welcome"

By Jeff Commings
ARIZONA DAILY STAR

"Blacks make up only 3 percent of Tucson's population. That's about 18,000 people.

And it seemed like all of them were making their presence known this week to support the arrival of the evacuees from New Orleans. Whether at Tucson International Airport or the Tucson Convention Center, organized groups and individual well-wishers made sure the first thing the evacuees saw were what they call "faces like ours."

http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/katrina/92507


70 posted on 09/09/2005 3:14:02 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: bethtopaz
In retrospect, I was being a little harsh, and I apologize for my bluntness.

I was born in Mississippi, lived there many years, and returned to go to college there. Since then, I have lived in many areas of the country (including northern California), and overseas as well.

Mississippians are unrivaled for their caring, warmth, and generosity of spirit. The news talks about the horrible things that have happened, but they don't talk about the remarkable, unselfish attitudes of those who are living this disaster. I have to hear this from my family and friends, black and white, who are struggling to maintain dignity and sense of purpose under horrible circumstances.

I'm a little oversensitive maybe.

71 posted on 09/09/2005 3:14:27 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: bethtopaz
It's getting better everywhere, but there is something about the deep South that I don't think many of us can understand, unless we were from there.

You CLEARLY don't understand the deep South, or San Francisco, for that matter. My grandfather was sherrif of Neshoba County, Mississipi, during the depression (only served one term because he didn't tolerate the Klan) and my father was raised in Philadelphia, MS. I grew up in New York, went to school in Texas, Boston and New York and ended up living in SF for the time between 77 and 82. After 5 years back in New York I ended up back in the "mid south" in the Memphis area, so I've seen it all.

If your boyfriend was afraid of being lynched in Mississippi for dating a white woman he should be honest enough to admit that the odds are equal that it would be a group of black women as a group of white men doing the lynching.

And as far as places "blacks can't/won't go" there are a ton of places in New York, Boston and, particularly, San Francisco, that a white boy better not go or they be dead real quick.

You don't want to be a whitey hanging out near Sam Wo's and the Golden Dragon at 3 AM. You don't want to be a black person in the hispanic sections of South City, Redwood City or the Potrero most any time of day. You don't want to be an asian in the wrong part of Oakland EVER. And you don't want to be ANY other ethnic group and wander into an area where Tagalog is the primary dialect.

There is more harmony and brotherhood between the "traditional" American ethnic groups (black and white) in the deep south than any other place I've lived. Don't get me started on South Boston during the busing riots! The white population in Memphis area is doing amazingly well in dealing with the large influx of hispanics from Mexico and further south, as well as the amazing increase in the asian population, particularly Korean and Vietnamese.

The folks in this area who are having trouble dealing with minorities are the black activists who have finally gotten control of the city government and insisit "it's our turn" to get rich off of graft and nepotism the way white people did through most of the 20th century. They can't stand the idea of other minorities "horning in on their action." There are signs of hope in the "traditional" black community, particularly the new County Mayor, AC Wharton, and some of the up and comers in the next generation (Harold Ford Junior is as partisan as they come, but he is rational).

So do a bit of introspection on your bigotry towards an entire quarter of the country you are part of and try to be a bit less prejudiced. Oh, and try to understand when the 99% of the US looks at the loons in SF and cries "WTF are you talking about?"

72 posted on 09/09/2005 3:15:41 PM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Hendrix
I agree, Hendrix. All races have great heroes and some really crummy people, too. I was raised with no prejudice whatsoever. In fact, my parents NEVER said anything bad about anyone as long as I can remember. They just didn't have that in their hearts. When I was little, and we lived in Boston, my parents worked with a Christian International Youth Group for University Students. Two of the guys were from Ethiopia: Eb and Bernie. They would come over to our house for dinner (we had a church in our home) and I would sit on his lap. As a four year old I thought he was the most beautiful person I'd ever seen.
73 posted on 09/09/2005 3:16:39 PM PDT by bethtopaz (We will not allow another generation of heroes to be forsaken. -- NewLand, from Free Republic)
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To: Hendrix
I agree, Hendrix. All races have great heroes and some really crummy people, too. I was raised with no prejudice whatsoever. In fact, my parents NEVER said anything bad about anyone as long as I can remember. They just didn't have that in their hearts. When I was little, and we lived in Boston, my parents worked with a Christian International Youth Group for University Students. Two of the guys were from Ethiopia: Eb and Bernie. They would come over to our house for dinner (we had a church in our home) and I would sit on his lap. As a four year old I thought he was the most beautiful person I'd ever seen.
74 posted on 09/09/2005 3:16:39 PM PDT by bethtopaz (We will not allow another generation of heroes to be forsaken. -- NewLand, from Free Republic)
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To: LibertyRocks
LOL... I've always wondered - where exactly is Caucasia???

Just west of Asia and just east of Europe, a little north of the Middle East.

75 posted on 09/09/2005 3:17:41 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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To: Phsstpok

Thanks for the education.


76 posted on 09/09/2005 3:18:25 PM PDT by bethtopaz (We will not allow another generation of heroes to be forsaken. -- NewLand, from Free Republic)
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To: TontoKowalski
"I'm a little oversensitive maybe."

I see a lot of non-southerners come to the south, and they see a lot of racism because they are reinforcing their prejudices that the south is a racist place. In other words, they see what they want to see to back up their preconceived notions of the south. I could go from where they are from and pick out the same type of behavior that they cite as racist, etc.
77 posted on 09/09/2005 3:18:36 PM PDT by Hendrix
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To: RWR8189

The people in the Rocky Mountain states may be the least racist in the country. Why?

The region was settled by sturdy individualists. In the earliest days, trappers and guides included blacks, half-breeds and Indians, Mexicans, etc.

Survival was the test, not your race.

An article a few years ago in US News, or Time or Newsweak featured a Medical Doctor, that moved to Wyoming. He also had a ranch.

He said he was most welcome. That he held some novelty value, but that was all.

In Utah, there are a whole lot of non-Mormons, too, if that is an issue.


78 posted on 09/09/2005 3:20:16 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Hendrix
If I looked and acted like white trash, do you think I would get a high level job?

If you were a democrat, you could get elected president.

79 posted on 09/09/2005 3:21:35 PM PDT by magslinger (They called Israel the land that GOD Himself gave his Chosen People the Jews.)
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To: truth_seeker
"The people in the Rocky Mountain states may be the least racist in the country."

No offense, but I don't agree with that statement at all. I lived in Utah for five years. I don't think it is any less or more racist than anywhere else.
80 posted on 09/09/2005 3:24:08 PM PDT by Hendrix
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