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With guns and generators, a few homeowners stand guard over neighbourhoods
Canadian Press ^ | September 05, 2005 | Robert Tanner

Posted on 09/05/2005 8:24:15 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo

NEW ORLEANS (AP) - When night falls, Charlie Hackett climbs the steps to his boarded-up window, takes down the plywood, grabs his 12-gauge shotgun and waits.

He is waiting for looters and troublemakers, for anyone thinking his neighbourhood has been abandoned like so many others across the city. Two doors down, John Carolan is doing the same on his screened-in porch, pistol by his side.

They are not about to give up their homes to the lawlessness that has engulfed New Orleans in the wake of hurricane Katrina.

"We kind of together decided we would defend what we have here and we would stay up and defend the neighbourhood," says Hackett, a U.S. Army veteran with a snow-white beard and a business installing custom kitchens.

"I don't want to kill anybody," he says, "but I'd sure like to scare 'em."

With generators giving them power, food to last for weeks and several guns each for protection, the men are two of a scattered community holed up across the residential streets of the city's Garden District, a lush neighbourhood with many antebellum mansions.

The streets, where towering live oaks once offered cool shade, are now often impassable because of huge fallen branches and downed power lines. Lovely porches framed in wrought iron lay smashed. Many of the homes appear only slightly damaged, or even untouched.

But the neighbourhoods are stunningly empty, and so quiet that they sound like a forest.

It is a short drive but a world away from the city's downtown, where tens of thousands of hungry, thirsty and increasingly angry people waited in misery at the Superdome and the New Orleans Convention Center before evacuations finally began.

Here, Carolan starts his nightly watch by lighting a big fire in his barbecue pit. Hackett turns his lights on and jams a 4.5-metre wooden brace against the front door so no one can break through.

The night is "black, black, black," Hackett says. "It reminds me of when I was in Vietnam, it reminds me of Dac To."

They have not had a problem staying awake. Each night there are gunshots in the distance, sometimes people walking through, an occasional car driving by.

"Last night I had to draw down on some people," Carolan says. A car with what sounded like a crowd of drunken, partying kids came through and stopped.

"I had to come out with a flashlight in one hand, pistol in the other," he says, crossing his arms like an X. "I said: 'Who are you? Do you live here? What are you doing here?' They said, 'We're leaving."'

Hackett, who in his 50s, lives alone, with his two cats and a bunch of neighbour's pets that he is caring for. Carolan, 46, is keeping watch with his brother, wife, son, and three-year-old granddaughter.

In the first few days, they were especially fearful. Looters smashed windows and ransacked a discount store and a drugstore a few streets over. Three men came to Carolan's house asking about his generator and brandished a machete. He showed them his gun and they left.

"It was pandemonium for a couple of nights. We just felt that when they got done with the stores, they'd come to the homes," Hackett says. "When it's not easy pickings, they'll go somewhere else."

Things have gotten quieter, the men say, but not quiet.

"What do you say, I'm a survivor," John Carolan says with a laugh, thinking of the reality TV show. "Hey, give me the million bucks now."

How long can Carolan and the others hold out?

Hackett has enough gas and food for a month. Carolan says they have weeks' worth of food and bug repellent, and he will siphon gas from left-behind cars to keep his electricity going.

"Everything we have is in our homes. With the lawlessness in this town, are you going to walk away from everything you built?" Carolan says. "A lot of people think we're stupid. They say, 'Why did you stay?' I say, 'Why didn't you stay?"'


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; bang; banglist; katrina; selfdefense
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To: bdfromlv
first rounds a blank

Bad move. If you do not have children who could get to the weapon keep it loaded and the first round shout be buckshot not a blank!

61 posted on 09/05/2005 10:36:07 AM PDT by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash, Rough Neck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast (Oil Field Trash was FUN))
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To: riverrunner

After 29 years working in leavenworth prisons and 15 years in the reserves I may not be able to type well, but I have been trained to shoot everything with a trigger and have met and dealt with evey type of POS from stock traders to Muslim terrorists. I also prefer my calico M-951 with the 50 round drum.


62 posted on 09/05/2005 10:39:48 AM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: Ostlandr

Amen to that!! This shows what real men do in a crisis, instead of crying, looting, raping, and murdering innocent people.

I am sure the media does not want this story reported.
If so, they will claim these men are part of an extremist group, who are going around terrifying black people.

I salute those two great Americans for pulling themselves up with their own boot-straps.

We Dare Defend Our Right's
NSNR-CSAOTL




63 posted on 09/05/2005 10:41:46 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: VoiceOfBruck

Are you saying he should have shot the looters anyway to prevent them from stealing from an unarmed generator owner?


64 posted on 09/05/2005 10:59:30 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Mr. Mojo
Email from an NOPD friend in New Orleans.... I edited out some personal stuff...

"well, as an actual witness to the insanity that has been going on, I strongly STRONLY advise you to stay wherever the #### you're at, xxxx. Do not come home, not even to help with the 'rebuilding', as that won't even start for MONTHS. there are dead bodies EVERYWHERE. The water, and everything it has touched is CONTAMINATED (that is the nice way to say it), there is nothing here. Yeah, your place probably made out ok, but there is nothing left around it. These animals have shot at rescue workers, at US, and make all the jokes about nopd as you want, we have been here, sleeping on the floor, ####ting and pissing in garbage cans, with no running water or electricity for days, and we have been trying to help people as we do this. as for looters, I am 110% with you when you say 'food and water'... only, these mother ####ers are looting footlocker for jerseys, taking beer and cigarettes from winn dixie, and are most surely taking dvd players, looting BLOCKBUSTER (as we all know, these mother ####ers are fully aware there are so many life saving things in that mother ####ing place)...

Amy called yesterday, in tears. She has been convoying fuel and actually had to run someone over who was attacking the vehicle with weapons. she is done. police officers are killing themselves and being killed, the animals are setting historic ####ing buildings on canal street on fire. roving 'gangs' are literally breaking into peoples houses, raping women and killing the families. what the ####!!!

Why would anyone want to come here? I understand it is our home, it is where we come from, where we were raised, etc. you just have no idea the thigns we've seen here, this is NOT the new orleans you know and love. I know and understand that you, xxxx especially are not going to believe it or sympathize with it, but I assure you, I am not in the least bit exaggerating. this place, let me just say... military people say it is worse than somalia. LOL? I don't ####ing know what to compare it to.

People have lost EVERYTHING. and some still refuse to leave, as if they have a choice! power and water will not be restored for months. the national guard and military, who still by the way have not supplied us with ANYTHING in the way of food or water, we've had to get that on our own, is going to literally have to go door to door, clearing houses and looking for bodies. the military has requested 60,000 body bags... SIXTY THOUSAND!!! and that may not be enough from what I'm understanding!!! My uncle, who is a dr. working out of east jefferson, is literally appalled at the thought that they are allowing people from jefferson back in on monday to "check on their stuff"... the disease that is in the air and water, the lack of running water, people are going to ####ing RIOT....

I promise you, stay where you're at. our chief told us yesterday that financial help is on the way, that 90 billion is coming to us (the city), and that new orleans will be a great place to call home in 2 to 5 ####ing YEARS!!!! Please, don't misunderstand me, help is welcome. I, however, strongly recommend leaving this job to the people that are qualified, the people with the proper inoculations, the proper training, the experience to handle it.

This is no florida, this is nothing that anyone could imagine. I'm taking pictures and video, but this #### is just like I'm trapped in a really ####ing bad movie... day after tomorrow bad. I am carrying an AR-15 or a shotgun with me at all times. And of course, my two attack chihuahua's, who I am offering up to anyone who can possibly take care of them for me while we are stuck here in this... I really need that more than any####ingthing else.

I love you all and hope to god you are all safe and can find jobs. I suggest staying as far away from the city, even state, as you possibly can. evacuees are just overflowing the state lines, and opportunity will be scarce. ....., stay in ..... , ros and hope... go as far away as you can. if we do get the time off, we are going to dc for a couple of days. love you all, write back if you can. just now got some super generator at "fort apache", whatever... being able to send the email is definitely a nice ####ing treat. would give it up for a working toilet, though."

65 posted on 09/05/2005 11:18:53 AM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: bdfromlv
I always thought that the Helical feed mags on the calico's were interisting but not very practical. I much prefer the H@K's for pistol calibers.

I wonder if they will come back now that the ugly weapon ban is dead.

66 posted on 09/05/2005 11:24:28 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: TennTuxedo
To borrow a phrase from the illustrious mhking, just damn.
(And to borrow a phrase from the notorious Ray Nagin, pardon my french.)
67 posted on 09/05/2005 11:28:06 AM PDT by shezza (God Bless Our Troops)
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To: riverrunner

I got mine at a gun show last year in KC, getting an extra mag is the only problem I have, just turn the crank 7 times for tension and let her rip. (also fits under my leather) but a little tail heavy they sell 100 round mags for about $250


68 posted on 09/05/2005 11:34:01 AM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: riverrunner
Bought my KelTec 9mm folder at a KC show and it uses the glock 17-30 round mags (very convenient)
69 posted on 09/05/2005 11:39:02 AM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: TennTuxedo
Thank you for posting this. As a retired police office from Newark, N.J. and having fought in two riots ('67-'68) I can tell you that this is no surprise to me and it rings as true as can be.


When I gave a copy of it to my wife for her to read she was dumbfounded, and she's seen a bit of life.



70 posted on 09/05/2005 11:40:29 AM PDT by G.Mason
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To: yall; Mr. Mojo

A Republic of Emergencies: Martial Law in American Jurisprudence

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71 posted on 09/05/2005 11:43:14 AM PDT by hypocrite
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To: Mr. Mojo; Joe Brower

An Armed Citizen Is A Safe Citizen!

Be Ever Vigilant!


72 posted on 09/05/2005 11:44:22 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: VoiceOfBruck
... I think that inconveniencing the looters by making them find an unarmed generator owner is only a partial solution.

I hope your tongue is in cheek. If not, this is a fine example of bastardizing language for political ends.

No one is *forcing* looters to find unarmed generator owners.

The onus is on looters, not armed generator owners.

73 posted on 09/05/2005 11:55:21 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: bdfromlv

I have .223 Ruger Mini 14 Bullpup with a 90 rd drum magazine.

Damn, is it fun to shoot. ;);)


(barrel gets hot fast)


74 posted on 09/05/2005 11:57:37 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Rebelbase
"he will siphon gas from left-behind cars to keep his electricity going."

Looter! Looter! Shoot him on sight! Who is he to steal his neighbour's gas! < / liberal idea of fairness >

75 posted on 09/05/2005 12:01:43 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: blackie

ive heard they work well, yours sounds great i will look for one.


76 posted on 09/05/2005 12:11:52 PM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
Are you saying he should have shot the looters anyway to prevent them from stealing from an unarmed generator owner?

Maybe he's not saying it, but I am.

Do you think because these looters have been turned away they will just give up and decide to go straight from now on? No! they will now be really p!ssed and will go looking for revenge on the first hapless victim(s) they find. And they will find some. They will probably not only loot, but rape, maim and murder to regain their lost self-esteem and to prove to each other they weren't really scared.

He should have shot them on the spot when they threatened him. Shot them all dead. Good riddance to trash and a deadly public threat!

77 posted on 09/05/2005 12:53:08 PM PDT by Gritty ("Politics in America remains committed to a system of lavish funding of pseudo-action - Mark Steyn)
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To: Gritty
One will never know how many others were killed and robbed because he did not get rid of them.

I heard several times where cops did not shoot a bad guy only to have later the same bad guy kill and murder someone they knew. In situations like this where some one threatens you to steal ordo you bodily harm it is time to kill them before they come back to you or someone else.

78 posted on 09/05/2005 1:05:58 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: bdfromlv
Bought my KelTec 9mm folder at a KC show and it uses the glock 17-30 round mags (very convenient)

It also make the world's most impressive "back-up" ;o)

79 posted on 09/05/2005 1:07:18 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: bdfromlv
I have shot several Kel tec folders and their pistols. I never found their reliability to be up to my standards and their accuracy to be lacking.

Meaning they jam way to offten and their groups suck.

80 posted on 09/05/2005 1:10:06 PM PDT by riverrunner
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