Posted on 08/30/2005 10:34:44 PM PDT by goldstategop
Pat Buchanan, former communications director to President Ronald Reagan, former presidential candidate and WND commentator, has come to the conclusion that a courageous Republican legislator should move a bill for impeachment of President Bush.
I reluctantly agree – and for the same reasons.
President Bush has had nearly six years in office to honor his oath of office and enforce immigration laws in this country.
He has not only failed, he has intentionally neglected this sworn duty, instead claiming he prefers to promote a vague immigration "reform" plan that involved a "guest worker" program that has served as an encouragement to the most massive influx of illegal immigration this country has ever seen.
Some will tell me this can't be done and that it is irresponsible to propose it because Bush is a wartime president.
My response? It is precisely because this nation finds itself in a desperate war declared by a formidable foe determined to use our open borders to destroy this country that we must act now.
Some will remind me I endorsed Bush just two years ago for re-election.
My response? I made it very clear at the time that I was not really endorsing Bush, per se, but seeking the only practical way to defeat his reckless and irresponsible and treasonous opponent. There is no contradiction here. Kerry had to be defeated. Now Bush must go. America can do better.
I don't agree with many of Pat Buchanan's foreign policy ideas. But on the border, he is 100 percent right. Bush has been a disaster. No matter how successful we might be in our campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan, we can lose this war against jihadist Islam right here at home.
Our enemies have already used the open border to penetrate this country – and they will do so again.
When Bush placed the old Immigration and Naturalization Service under the new Department of Homeland Security, I actually believed he recognized how critical border security was to the defense of our homeland. I was fooled.
In the current issue of my premium, online, intelligence newsletter, G2 Bulletin, author Paul Williams recounts in extravagant detail how al-Qaida operatives have already used the open Mexican border not only to sneak operatives into the country but to smuggle in nuclear weapons with the help of the MS-13 (Mara Salvatrucha) street gang.
The fuse has been lit.
The war in Iraq, which I have supported, will mean little when, not if, a nuclear weapon is detonated inside our own country.
When that happens, we will no longer be having debates about who has more culpability for Sept. 11 – Bush or his predecessor. Bush has had ample opportunity to address the mistakes of the past. Instead, he has repeated them. They say hindsight is 20-20. Not for Bush.
Even if the border issue and the tsunami of illegal immigration was not strictly speaking the No. 1 national security issue we face, enforcing the laws of the land would be the right thing to do – the only moral and right thing to do.
Americans are dealing with more joblessness, higher crime, skyrocketing taxes, a crippled medical system, overcrowded jails, an overburdened judicial and law enforcement system, costly and divisive language barriers and changing demographics that are permanently transforming the U.S. culture.
Why?
Bush claims it is because America needs cheap labor. That's what the law of supply and demand is all about. It's not his duty or responsibility to acquire workers for big corporations and other fat cats below what the market will support.
I don't even believe Bush is being honest when he makes this argument. I am convinced there are international agreements behind this. I am persuaded the systematic destruction of the American way of life through uncontrolled and illegal immigration is part of a master plan for merger and global consolidation – first with our neighbors in this hemisphere and later worldwide.
This secretive plot must end here and now.
America was founded on the principle of independence and sovereignty. The president is betraying our most sacred national heritage.
Bush is ignoring the will of the people and he is violating the law of the land.
It's time to turn up the heat.
As Buchanan suggested: Will even one courageous Republican member of Congress have the guts to sponsor a bill of impeachment?
Right, Einstein---that's a little different from your assertion that a profile "equates" two categories.
The guy wasn't talking about a statistical profile at all; he made an assertion of fact--that these people are illegal. Not might be. Are. They ARE illegal. I would concur that they might be, and at least some probably are--but that's not what he said. He said they ARE illegal, when in fact he has no idea whether they're illegal or not. Do you finally get it?
What I "got" is that you're not to be trusted representing what anybody else's position is---that's what I "got."
You are claiming that you believe in keeping prices (i.e., wages) up, but you don't believe in making people pay more. That's nonsense. For every increased price, there's someone else out there paying more. You can't be for higher prices and simultaneously against people paying more. It's a contradiction. Do you get it?
Another complete distortion. I believe in enforcing the law. There're more laws than just the immigration laws which force Americans to pay more for goods and services---wage and hour laws, environmental regs, and so forth. I may agree with all, none, or some. That has not a goddam thing to do with whether or not I or any one else is entitled to simply ignore any valid, existing law or excuse its breach because the result of the breach will mean a cost savings to somebody. Got it, scofflaw?
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You don't want a president, you want a benevolent dictator who will do whatever it is that you want, when you want it; legal or not.
You really don't care who wins in '08? You're that delusional, that you can say with a straight face, that there won't be an election in '08? You don't mind being almost a clone of Crazy Cindy Sheehan, the CODE PINK lunatics, and the anarchist nutters? Then you need to get off FR, because not only are you NOT a Conservative, you neither know nor understand anything at all about history, how government works, why what you've just posted makes you appear to be stupid beyond belief !
You've been here all of ten days. I suggest that you find a site which will suit you better.
If Bush declares amnesty for all illegals tomorrow, so that we no longer have to speculate whether they are legal or illegal, it wouldn't make any difference to me that the illegals are all suddenly legal. We need a 20 year moratorium on all immigration and we should create "Our Contract With Presidential Candidates" that would require any prospective Presidential candidate to declare his support for the measure.
You can call me racist all you want but the fact of the matter is that the millions of Muslims that we have imported into this country in recent years would trade our American way of life that has adopted them for Islamic rule, all they need is the numbers.
As for Mexican legal immigrants, look how they vote. Why would we want to willingly bring more Democrats into this country? 100 years ago immigrants didn't come in with an option of joining the union of parasites and taking through sheer numbers what Americans before them built.
Democracy has degenerated into an alliance of parasites who want something from the host and we can expect the vast majority of immigrants to be parasites because they simply don't have "the ownership" to preserve our way of life. They are easily persuaded to have it taken away from someone and have it handed to them.
Wow, are you ever confused! I know that a profile doesn't equate two things. But Jim_Curtis was equating two things. Therefore, he wasn't "profiling" at all, though you mistakenly claimed he was. What he was doing was saying that a bunch of people are illegal aliens, when in fact he doesn't know. Perhaps this time you get it?
Another complete distortion. I believe in enforcing the law.
So you're trying, yet again, to claim that you approve of labor protectionism raising wages, even though you don't approve of the resulting higher costs. OK, so you're still confused. Keep trying and you might get it.
Got it, scofflaw?
Identify the law I've broken, troll.
At least you're honest enough to admit it. So the problem for you isn't illegal immigration, it's all immigration.
As for Mexican legal immigrants, look how they vote. Why would we want to willingly bring more Democrats into this country?
I didn't know I was bringing them in. But you're actually mistaken; legal immigrants tend to go conservative. If immigration laws were properly enforced, that would be even more true. Illegals are pretty reliable Democrat voters, it's true.
Democracy has degenerated into an alliance of parasites who want something from the host...
You mean, like wanting the government to keep people out of the country to keep your wages up? Yes, I agree that it's a big problem.
If you want to be a mill operator you go to school to learn to operate a mill, or you sytsart ouit on the shop floor sweeping up filings and toting stanless steel rods for minimum wage.
The fact that Americans refuse to start out sweeping floors, carrying plywood sheets, hand sanding sheet metal, and changing truck tires means that they do not want the more skilled jobs.
If you think thast you can lay around your parents' house playing your gameboy until you're thirty years old and be given a job as a crane operator that was previously held by an illegal Mexican worker you are delusional.
That type person couldn't keep the job even if it were given to him.
Your blindness is appalling!
While impeachment might be a tad too harsh, a good spanking with a stiff hair brush on his bare bottom by his Mom might be just what is called for.
Are you saying the majority of the immigrants become conservative? That "shocking number" you mention isn't a majority and if you say it is, you are blind or a liar.
Los Angeles probably has the highest number of voting immigrants ( that is LEGAL immigrants ) and they just voted for an ACLU mayor. For that matter, California hasn't voted for a Republican President in a long time.
In a democracy, the majority means a lot. I'm not ready to hand over my country because you know an immigrant FReeper.
You need to look at the bigger picture; America is a far larger place than California...though I happen to actually know of a number of legal immigrants, some of whom are now citizens, who live in California and are probably more Conservative than you are.
The usual talking points: Americans refuse to do all these jobs blah blah, except of course in those states where illegals haven't invaded yet, a little point you and the open border crowd conveniently ignore.
Honesty is always the best policy bayourod. It's time for you to come out and admit you want the cheap labor to bust the unions and/or crash the wages. It's not like it's a secret.
Are you ever deceitful. That's why I don't believe one damn thing you say about Jim_Curtis either "equating" or "profiling" anything.
So you're trying, yet again, to claim that you approve of labor protectionism raising wages, even though you don't approve of the resulting higher costs. OK, so you're still confused. Keep trying and you might get it.
Get this, scofflaw: I believe the law should be enforced until it is changed. I don't make the law, but I have to obey it anyway, whatever it costs me. If you don't believe the law is to be obeyed, then no matter how you slice your baloney, you're a scofflaw.
Identify the law I've broken, troll.
Heh, heh, it's not that I think you've broken a law, sweetheart---it's just that you advocate "lower costs" for the "wrong reasons." BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
You want to dismiss real meaningful data in favor of experiences with a few personal acquaintances of yours. There is no question in my mind that if we gave amnesty to all illegals tomorrow, three or four of them would become FReepers and 20% of them might vote for a Republican some day. So what?
That ain't the half of it.
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