Katrina Live Thread, Part XI

Various ^ | 30 August 2005 | Various

[longtermmemmory]

FL had the same lack of time and they had activated their responses as it this was going to be a direct hit for disaster purposses.

In fact the big problem FL had was from the power company not government lack of planning.

The time to prepare is when there is no storm comming.

[garandgal]

So they are leaving 30,000 people inside with NO INFORMATION?

Yes. There is no PA system...people inside are very frustrated and have no idea what is going on. Some that were brought by boat earlier today from rooftops have been waiting, to no avail, for the rest of their families to show up.

They did say (it was really bizarre to hear this) that they have "allowed" the captives...ooops...refugees to go onto the outside balconies to "enjoy the sunshine." I kid you not.

[longtermmemmory]

yes pancakes...

[stlnative]

I just watched when they pulled that one black man out of his attic in slow motion from off my Tivo system again and again. (they are showing it on CNN over and over.) If one cannot watch it in slow motion you miss a lot of the detail.

The boat is going by the house and you can see a round silver thing flashing right under the edge of the roof. The man was only able to stick his hand through a hole near the edge of the roof and flash the silver thing to get the rescuers attention that was in the boat trolling by his home. They show rescuers hacking him out from the roof top. You can see his hand fly up through the hole (like he was bobbing up and down in the water) while the rescuer is trying to hack through the roof.

Finally they make a big enough hole and the man only had 12" inches or less of head room in the attic the rest of it was filled up with water. He must have been hanging on to the rafters in his attic to stay above water. He slips once from the grip of the rescuers and goes back under. They are able to grab a hold of him again and you can clearly see the fear in his eyes. One rescuer says, "I got him he's not going to going anywhere". The man is making whimpering sounds as they are finally able to pull him out completely. The man is dazed and they set him down in the boat. One rescuer pats the man on his shoulder and says, "Feel Better, are you alright?" - The man reaches his hand out to one rescuer and shakes his rescuers hand and you see the dazed look come off the man face and a slight smile come through on his face and his arm is shaking some. - You don't see all this when it running at normal speed as the camera is jolting around so much. The man's left eye looks to be swollen as if he smacked his eye against a rafter while he was trying to keep his head above water.

It is truly amazing to watch it in slow motion - it is like he is being "born" again.

I hope the man survived - it looked like he had heart surgery at one time as I thought I could see a scar right down the middle of his chest were they must have cracked his chest open for heart surgery in the past.

The people who are rescuing these survivors are risking their own life's to save others - may god bless them all.

[bayourant]

The superdome is not a shelter its a sports arena but it was the only safe place to put people in a hurry. Can you tell me does Miami Charleston tampa jacksonville corpus chrisit have a place to put have any 30,000 capacity with perfect cat 4/5 reslient genarators and pa communications devices. PLeaseee why are we getting the brunt here in LA

[LA Woman3]

Check out these photos....

http://www.flymsy.com/

[Howlin]

Well, this is quite a plan they have, isn't it?

What's next, containment areas under the interstates?

[buckleyfan]

So you are admitting that the City of New Orleans put 36,000 people into an arena with NO WAY OF COMMUNICATING with them?

Good to know.

Huh? Who knows how they communicate with them - by bullhorn for all I care. Maybe they just TALK to them. You specifically said they had made no announcements on the PA. Umm, without electricity, what magic beans do you have that will make the PA system work? and how could you not realize that the Superdome was on a backup generator that provides minimal service - basically dim lights - as they've been reporting that since Monday morning?

You're better at the insults - go back to them. ;)

[Pepper777]

I think what bothers me the most, is the fact the water isn't going away. There are still people trapped on houses and in the Superdome without the basics. Then to make matters worse, we keep hearing these reports of more rising water of from 9 to 15 feet.

I'm just scared that more people will die. :(

[Torie]

That is what I heard. It certainly should be. It is about at sea level and in the NO bowl (there are 13 bowls, but the NO bowl sans East NO is the mother of all bowls). If Canal Street is under water, than the runways should be, assuming gravity still obtains (except when it seems the waters will go ten feet above for mysterious reasons, that no one has bothered to explain). Simply miserable isn't it?

[Howlin]

I'm going to watch it closer the next time they run it, but I know which one you are talking about it.

One thing I keep wondering is how many more of them are in those attics.

[fatima]

I saw a whole line of them and people happy because they were tired and hungry.I did not see where they were leaving from but from TV reports there were still 2 ways to exit.

[buckleyfan]

The superdome is not a shelter its a sports arena but it was the only safe place to put people in a hurry. Can you tell me does Miami Charleston tampa jacksonville corpus chrisit have a place to put have any 30,000 capacity with perfect cat 4/5 reslient genarators and pa communications devices. PLeaseee why are we getting the brunt here in LA

Hey look man, just stop, these people are experts! You might live in LA, you might be an LA Republican who actually has some firsthand knowledge of the entire situation on the ground there, but it's better to listen to armchair joe and 20/20 steve from Omaha or wherever tell you exactly how it should be done!! ;)

[fatima]

Kinda like that :) You better behave and get to bed.

[Howlin]

Who knows how they communicate with them - by bullhorn for all I care.

That's the entire point: they are NOT communicating with the people in that Dome; nobody is telling them ANYTHING.

You are a collosal BORE as a poster because you cannot keep up YOUR end of a discussion because you are either obtuse or deliberately acting that way.

[buckleyfan]

:)

I think I missed my window. Although i might be drifting in and out of consciousness.

[buckleyfan]

You are a collosal BORE as a poster because you cannot keep up YOUR end of a discussion because you are either obtuse or deliberately acting that way.

Then why, oh why, are you so involved in posting to me? Gotta say, though, you're not all that exciting yourself. Just another armchair expert on whatever the "hot issue of the day" happens to be.

[longtermmemmory]

how long before LA dusts off the Nuclear War Aftermath plans?

[bayourant]

To be honest hurricanes are and have been much more of a reality for floridians. They also have a greater budget. To say LA was unprepared simply is wrong the fact we evaced 1/4 of the population of this state in 36 hours is amazing and that was becausse of planning. Not bad for a primarly rural state We are a "working coast" here which means not we simply cant do that every time a hurricane enters the gulf some place if we did the state would be bankrupt and it would have distrous effects on the national economy

[fatima]

Well get me the hell off your ping list:).