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To: Howlin
As far as I can see, the NO plan was "It Will Turn."

Not at all. The National Hurricane Center et al as late as Saturday night had this storm centered on Mobile/Pensacola. There was an overnight jog to the west that re-oriented this storm on NOLA and the local governments reacted immediately Sunday morning calling for a complete and total evacuation.

It seems that the 'American Way' of late is that when bad things happen we seek someone to blame. I think that in this instance that is not only a waste of effort, but in fact counter-productive. The leaders who are in place, duly elected by their constituents, need and deserve our support to mitigate the damage and save lives. Save the blame mongering for a more appropriate time - and with the perspective of time you may find it is not appropriate at all.

1,086 posted on 08/30/2005 10:04:28 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: BlueNgold

Well said!


1,112 posted on 08/30/2005 10:07:54 AM PDT by watchwoman
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To: BlueNgold
Not at all. The National Hurricane Center et al as late as Saturday night had this storm centered on Mobile/Pensacola.

Actually, you are wrong:

To: Howlin

For future reference, this repeated line by the mayor and governor that "We went to bed Friday night being told it was a Florida storm, and woke up Saturday to find us threatened" to excuse why they waited so long to start the evacuation plan is total bullshit. (excuse my French)

Friday 4pm NO time report from the NWS, warns of a significant shift west, Mississippi landfall (88.5 on the grid, NO is 90), and possible more movement expected (post #388):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471043/posts?page=388#388


By at least Friday 6pm computer models were converging on LA (post #478):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471043/posts?page=478#478


Turns out those computer models had been run at 2pm (post #526):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471043/posts?page=526#526


In fact some computer models run at 7am NO time Friday had predicted a NO hit(post #224):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471043/posts?page=224#224

So unless the gov and mayor went to bed Friday afternoon, they knew then that it likely was headed their way.


But wait, lookee here, Blanco declares a state of emergency about 8pm Friday night. Why do that if they were told it was going to be a Florida hurricane? (post #585)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471043/posts?page=585#585

2,374 posted on 08/28/2005 5:30:44 PM EDT by Diddle E. Squat
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1,153 posted on 08/30/2005 10:12:39 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: BlueNgold
Not at all. The National Hurricane Center et al as late as Saturday night had this storm centered on Mobile/Pensacola.

COMPLETELY WRONG.

The last time the NHC track landfall was east of Mobile was 11AM Friday. At 5PM Friday the landfall was shifted to Eastern Mississippi, and at 11PM Friday the landfall was shifted to New Orleans, where it remained every advisory till landfall.

For whatever reason mythology about the NHC tracks being more wrong than they were seems to grow up after every storm.

1,174 posted on 08/30/2005 10:15:21 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: BlueNgold
It seems that the 'American Way' of late is that when bad things happen we seek someone to blame. I think that in this instance that is not only a waste of effort, but in fact counter-productive.

Agreed. Right now, we should be in compassion mode and trying to do all we can. Mother nature does her will and this is just a lesson as to how impotent we really are against it.

1,268 posted on 08/30/2005 10:24:20 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (Visit Club Gitmo - The World's Only Air-Conditioned Gulag.)
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