Posted on 08/24/2005 3:09:44 PM PDT by Born Conservative
A 5-year-old Monroeville boy died this week during a medical treatment that's being touted by some as a cure for autism.
The autistic boy died while receiving chelation -- an intravenous injection of a synthetic amino acid known as EDTA, for ethylene diamine tetraacetic acid. The Food and Drug Administration has approved the practice only to treat heavy metal (such as lead) poisoning. The treatment is becoming increasingly popular, though still controversial, for autism.
Police are investigating the boy's death, which occurred Tuesday morning in the office of Dr. Roy Kerry in Portersville.
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I'm 53 years old. It's either "I'm tired of waiting for my daughters to deliver a grand child" or "ooops".
A brotherly fondness for words that are kindof "out there"?
Good for you! Go find out, just do not risk your childs health against a bunch of trial lawyers trying to make a fast buck. That is all I'm saying. Whooping Cough, Diptheria, Hepatitis, Tetanus and Polio can seriously screw up or kill your baby.
I give up, is that "Love of strange words"?
We still vaccinate our autistic and non-autistic children. My son's symptoms were noticeable even at birth so I have never considered vaccination to be a cause in our case.
I do believe that some autisms are caused by vaccination. When a parent takes a normal two-year-old to get a vaccination, the child has a known measurable vaccine side-effect like high fever, and subsequent autism symptoms result, it is pretty likely that the vaccine was involved. Look at the before and after videos. Some children have immune systems just waiting to be set off and multispectrum vaccinations provoke a pretty powerful immune response.
Unfortunately, from a public health perspective, a small number of damaged children has always been the cost of defeating these serious illnesses. Vaccine reactions, even including death, are well documented. It's just that the government doesn't want to admit it and the public won't accept it.
I feel that we need to make vaccination safer. We can start by not using multispectrum vaccines, like MMR, and instead split them up over the course of a year. This will have less impact on the immune system.
Also, having a neurotoxin in vaccines is just stupid. Find a substitute for Thimerisol.
Belief structures being what they are, I will not present my antidotal evidence to the contrary. I would like to see some causational proof, other than produced videos and such.
Why? What's the suggested rationale? Clever name?
Heck, when I was a kid and a thermometer broke we used to "play" with the spilled mercury -- pushing the little balls around on the table. The other day, my husband and I had to turn in 5 lbs of mercury in powdered form that had been left in our manufacturing plant years ago by the previous owner. It was in a Rubbermaid container. We took it to the county hazardous waste yard, had to wait at the gate for 1/2 hour to be admitted while they checked our credentials. After they buzzedus in, my husband had to stop at a special office and spend another 1/2 hour filling out forms. Finally he came out, accompanied by a lady, and retrieved our small box of mercury from the car. She was filling out still more forms and weighing it. Then she had him place it on a roll around cart and she finally took it inside the warehouse. It cost us $50 to get rid of it. She blamed Homeland Security. It was so much trouble that it is no wonderthat people dispose of things illegally.
We did that with my grandson, plus a gluten-free diet. It did not help appreciably.
The article promises that there will be additional details tomorrow. I hope you can post that article. Please ping me.
My father worked at a lab when I was as kid (1960 or so) and it closed, he brought home all kinds of cool stuff. One was a jar of pure mercury, about 1/3 of a cup. Us kids found it and played with all the time, I even put it in my mouth, it felt really strange. I subsequently graduated with honors from Johns Hopkins University.
You said, "There are studies that show that while there are individual cases of dramatic improvement from various psychotherapy drugs, that on the average people given them become less mentally healthy."
I think I understand what you are saying but can't the same be said for most illnesses? Take diabetes. Insulin delays death but morbidity increases despite the medicines used. Hence the onset of kidney failure, neuropathies, vascular disease, etc.
Consider hypertension. The antihypertensive medicine may control the BP but it doesn't cure it. The patient goes on to have increased rate of stroke, coronary artery disease, kidney disease, etc, even with the meds.
We do everything possible to help the body cope with illnesses but I get the sense that some folks (possibly sometimes for conservative religious reasons)don't believe in mental illnesses. Somehow that is different -- not really part of the "body". My point is that the brain is as complicated and fallible as any other organ in the body.
What say you? I'm curious.
That must be especially hard for family members to be critical. It seems that whenever I have judged something unfairly, I see it return to me and boy! do I feel down-pegged when I realize my misjudgment.
Well, my husband's family never DID like me much, so there's no surprise.
I just wish my FIL would keep his snarky comments to himself when my daughter is within ear-shot.
I was very fortunate in that my daughter has always been very affectionate in nature, so that helped.
And yeah, you can tell, even when they are so little!
Colic for 5 months? You poor thing!
I wish you and your son well. God Luck during the new school year!
Thanks for the link. You've got your hands full, that's for sure. My cousin had the Autism where he needed help getting dressed, eating, etc. When he became violent, his folks had to place him in a facility. He must be in his 30's by now.
I didn't realize that these conditions can be somewhat reversed, so there is hope these days.
I don't know if you were really ingesting the mercury by rollling it in your mouth. I had a vial of it too, as a kid, because my dad was a science teacher and brought it home. It was in the silvery form.
The problem with the mercury in the vaccines is that it is applied to babies whose immune systems and physical development is not at a level where they can withstand the effects. Just as when a baby is born, it does not look like a miniature adult, his/her internal development is not mature either. He is growing iside as well as outside, and high levels of mercury interferes with the proper development of important neuro-pathways, etc. There is a narrow window, as I understand it, when those pathways can be built and further development cannot take place until the neuropathways are in place. Some doctors point to the autistic's ubiquitous "sideways" glance (where the child never looks directly at you) as a symptom, for instance, that the rods and the cones in the eyes are not developed correctly.
The few autistics who have recovered tell of sort of a "tunnel vision" where the focus of their vision is off to the side. This is a problem that many adults have with autistics as they fuss at the child to "look at me" and the child is looking at them out of the corner of his eye -- which is the only spot he can see clearly.
My grandson had 4 times the acceptable levels of mercury in his system when he was tested, just from his baby shots.
I did a little looksee through the links, but I didn't see a definite cause. Both my cousin and my almost 18 yr old son had extremely high fevers at age 2. My son has behavioral problems, but is intelligent. He just feels compelled to break every rule. He lives with his father now.
I took him to a lot of doctors, medical and shrinks, but no one could come up with a definite diagnosis. Our long time family physician at the time, told me his problems are genetic.
As a parent, his behavior I hate to say, does make you look bad.
I might add that if you were a kid in the 1960s, you also were not subjected to the same number of juvenile shots that the babies have now. There was no MMR vaccine, for instance, no hepatitus (which they get before leaving the hopital) no chickenpox, no rubella, etc.
The shots are all useful, but they really should be spaced, instead of given all at once as they often are now so that they don't overwhelm the immune system. We really think my grandson was damaged by the shots -- the change was so sudden. Sometimes its the child's individual immune system that is at fault, which is why not all children suffer ill effects. Just like some children have allergies and some don't, some children are sensitive to this mercury and some aren't.
Most autistics are intelligent -- we just can't reach it, often.
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