Evolution Debate creates monster [Flying Spaghetti monster, to be exact]

Lawrence Journal-World ^ | August 24, 2005 | Scott Rothschild

[wideawake]

I'd love to know. It seems to change whenever an evolution critic tries to nail it down.

[wideawake]

The double post was completely unintentional.

[Dark Knight]

Show that no designer was on earth.

Show the mechanism for change is natural.

Since I don't find much use for ID, that is not my forte.

NS and Evolutionists however have taken much away from the science in biology. We KNOW mergers between species, not just extinctions happen. We cannot tell what a species is. NS asserts speciation. Doesn't that present a problem to you?

I like the hard science biology stuff. It will show mechanically what happens. Bones don't, they were interesting for taxonomy, but the origin stuff was purely mental masturbation at the time of the scopes trial.

Lamark believed extinctions were harder than NS Darwinism.

But I ask you, on the more important question, on the noodle, al dente or soft?

DK

[mdmathis6]

The Hindu account seems more plausible to me....were I looking to switch religions!

[rattrap]

WWFSMD?

[Little Ray]

Hmm. Flying Spaghetti Monster. Mi-go? Yog-Sothoth?

[PatrickHenry]

EvolutionPing

A pro-evolution science list with over 300 names. See the list's explanation at my freeper homepage. Then FReepmail to be added or dropped.

[mdmathis6]

"ID postulates an intelligence or intelligences - not a specific one"

Von Daaniken of "Chariots of the Gods" fame thought that Earth was "tampered" with by alien intelligences.

[stormer]

"ID postulates an intelligence or intelligences - not a specific one."

All well and good, but I suspect you favor one deity over some other. The point is that for ID to be acceptable as an explanation for biological diversity, there must be a mechanism in place (other than the unprovable divine intervention) that explains that diversity. For 150 years the TOE has done just that. It is not a conspiracy of atheists who seek to reform societies; it is the product of uncounted hours of observation, experiment, and research by dedicated, intelligent scientists who are seeking natural explanation for the way things work.

[js1138]

At least we know he was willing to say that when it brought in the big bucks.

[Dark Knight]

Here is the link to that most upstart of noodles.
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

The Rotini will satisfy more of your religious hunger. Pay not attention, that way is a distraction.

DK

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Coyoteman]

ID postulates an intelligence or intelligences - not a specific one.

Then why, when I post "alternative" creation storyies are they criticized for being "not good enough?" Not detailed, not written down early, not this, not that, etc. Not a one of the CS/IDers has embraced one of these stories as worthy of consideration.

Make no mistake, the CS/IDers have one very specific creation story in mind! And its not the one below:

Zulu Creation Myth

The Ancient One, known as Unkulunkulu, is the Zulu creator. He came from the reeds (uthlanga, means source) and from them he brought forth the people and the cattle. He created everything that is: mountains,streams, snakes, etc. He taught the Zulu how to hunt, how to make fire, and how to grow food. He is considered to be the First Man and is in everything that he created.

[Modernman]

There is only one true noodle!

I'm a Zitiist myself, of the Reformed Missouri Synod branch of Zitiism.

[wideawake]

It isn't in the Zulu creation story because ID does not postulate that the intelligence is present in designed creatures.

Obviously most ID adherents will hope that the designing intelligence is the God that they worship - but ID does not make that assumption.

ID does not even assume that the designing intelligence is God by any definition. For all ID proffers, the designer could now be dead and gone, never to be heard from again.

[John Scopes]

You're not clever, not funny, not even original...just another follower of the 1960's attack the underpinnings of our law and culture movement.

[Dark Knight]

All I can say, is the great collander will decide which of us is right. I can say I have strayed and found comfort with Ziti, elbow, and yes even macaroni. But the Angel Hair always brings me back to the one True Rotini, glistening with extra virgins and attended by Balsamics. It is a sight to behold.

DK

[Modernman]

All I can say, is the great collander will decide which of us is right.

True. We have too long quarreled with one another over trivial religious points. We never want to go back to the horrors of the Hundred Years Al Dente Wars.

Anyways, ever since the Council of The Olive Garden, religious pasta harmony has reigned.

[Modernman]

You're not clever, not funny, not even original...just another follower of the 1960's attack the underpinnings of our law and culture movement.

You know it. Those of us who accept the theory of evolution are only interested in making you smoke dope, dodge the draft, and having your sister have sex with Negro jazz musicians in Harlem.

[wideawake]

All well and good, but I suspect you favor one deity over some other.

I don't look to ID to convince me of a truth I already know.

The point is that for ID to be acceptable as an explanation for biological diversity, there must be a mechanism in place (other than the unprovable divine intervention) that explains that diversity.

Again, ID does not postulate divine intervention.