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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 15
Various News Outlets | 8/19/05

Posted on 08/19/2005 7:02:03 AM PDT by TexKat

Profile of Natalee Holloway

Missing: Natalee Holloway participated in a trip with 125 seniors from Mountain Brook High School to Aruba in the Caribbean. In the early morning hours on May 30, 2005 Natalee was seen leaving a nightclub and getting into a vehicle. She failed to turn up Monday morning for her return flight home and she has not been seen since. Foul play is suspected in her disappearance.

Profile: Natalee Holloway was born on October 21, 1986 to Beth and Dave Holloway. She grew up in the close-knit community of Mountain Brook, a suburb of Birmingham, Alabama. She was very popular and respected by her classmates and had a reputation among peers at being very intelligent and focused on her future. She lived up to her reputation, graduating as an honors student from the Mountain Brook High School.

Extracurricular Activities: During Natalle's high school years she participated several extracurricular activities including: The American Field Service - A club which interacts with the foreign exchange students. Dorians Dance Team Future Business Leaders of America Mu Alpha Theta - Math honor society Natural Helpers - A peer based emotional support group. Outdoors Club Spanish Club Spanish Honor Society Spartan Pride - School pep group. TASC - Teens Actively Serving the Community

Future Goals: Natalee received a full scholarship to the University of Alabama. She planned to major in Pre-Med, in order to pursue her goal of being a pediatrician.


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Posted at Aruba Bulletin Board by member rolaruba

Here is some interesting reading concerning Jossy.

I have scanned the "La Prensa" newspaper of August 17, 2005 using adobe reader to copy here. There might be some conflicts with the lettering.

Innocent until proven guiltY

Jossy,

I will continue to write to you in the English language, so that your friends in the American media, can also follow our exchange of ideas in the case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, and so that they can also get to know you a lot better. I will however not stoop to the low level of name calling and personal insults that you have displayed in your open letter to me. Maybe that is the reason you decided to answer me in Papiamentu, so that your American friends would not know the kind of insults and lies you can spew, when you have no reasonable and sane arguments to express.

Nobody, and I mean nobody, should be happier than you Jossy, that everybody is innocent until proven guilty.

Do you remember the super secret intelligence report of April 20th 1995, destined only for the eyes of the Governor of Aruba, the Prime Minister of Aruba, the Head Prosecutor of Aruba, the Interim Head of the Security Services of Aruba, the Prime Minister of the Netherlands, the Minister of Netherlands-Antillian and Aruban Affairs, the Head of the Interior Security Service of the Netherlands, the chief director of KABNA in the Netherlands and for the Archives of the Interior Security Services. This report was issued by the Dutch Internal Security Service in cooperation with intelligence services of the United States, Venezuela, Colombia, Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles.

Just imagine where you would be today, if any of those allegations that are mentioned in this very secret document could be proven. But luckily you are innocent until proven guilty.

This report amongst other things states that the biggest danger for the security of Aruba is the drug cartels which operate in some of the neighboring countries and which generate large amounts of money. This money has to be washed. To do this they make use of well-established families with large assets in legal activities. They further mention that such an influential family with friendly connection to government is dominant on Aruba. Any idea which family they are talking about, Jossy?

They also mention the fact that in files from police-security and investigative organizations, the names of promi- nent Aruban business people and their companies have been mentioned during the last 15 years. These prominent families worked primary as washers of drug money.

The investigation confirms the long existing suspicion that some members of a very dominant Aruban family and some friendly associates are the center of these criminal Aruban activities.

Do you know who they are talking about Jossy?

The report further states that information from American investigations give a view in the way the network of these Aruban families work, and it also gives an impression of the enormous amounts of their illegal turnovers. These families are manipulating and committing fraud on a large scale with existing and nonexisting merchan- dise transactions, bills of ladings, bank accounts and shell companies.

The report concludes that the above mentioned Aruban families have a substantial part personally ,as through their companies in the organized criminal activities with regards to the commerce in drugs and especially with the legalization of the proceeds from this drug business. Have you any idea whom they are talking about Jossy?

The report than proceeds to mention a few names of prominent Aruban business people, some very well known and related to you. Some of these people served jail time in the United States of America, house arrest in Puerto Rico, and jail time in Curacao.

Finally the report has this to say about a gay named Jossy:

.Jossy…………..(born Aruba date)

Jossy is the owner and editor in chief of the very influential newspaper………. Besides that he is also a director of the family enterprise ……..." . and owner of some other companies on Aruba and a chain of video stores in Florida.

Jossy made preparations in 1992 and 1993 and started executing activities with the white washing of drug money, transactions with false bank papers, the sale of a shipment of jewels with an unrealistic value.

Jossy looked for his transactions to a well-known Dutch ex-thief, Ari Oliver, whom he tried to setup as a point man for the whitewashing of criminally obtained drug money from Europe. Conversation between Jossy and Oliver took place on Aruba and some times in Amsterdam.

Various funds obtained through the trade in arms and nacrcotics according to Jossy were ready to be washed.

.. There was 20 million US dollars to be washed in an investment bank in Zagred, Croatia.

.. 100 million US dollars in false bank guarantees in the name of a company formed by Jossy, the Fritzroy Corporation destined to be invested in an American video chain.

.. 65 million US dollars in a bank in Ecuador.

500 million US dollars in a Swiss bank

Jossy, you should really be happy that you are innocent until proven guilty !

Some say that your friendship with the Ex Prime Minister of Aruba and the late Ex Minister of Justice were the reasons that none of these allegations were further investigated, with the same zeal and urgency that you now demand from the investigators against Joran van der Sioot. It helps sometimes to have friends in high places.

As the days go by Jossy, I will be informing on all the different cases and times you were innocent until proven guilty. I am at the moment compiling all the instances mentioned in the different intelligence reports, like this one, and books about you, since I want to be well documented and credible.

As you can see, you have had many instances of serious allegations being raised against you, but still you are innocent until proven guilty, why can't you give Joran vander Sioot, the same benefit of the doubt that you have been given so many times?

Why are you so obsessed with destroying this boy? .

If and when he is proven to be guilty, I would agree with you, but just like you, he has not been proven guilty yet! So like you he should be innocent until proven guilty!

A lovable person like you, who never smuggled anything, but was just supplying the "goods" to boat captains who did the smuggling into Venezuela and Colombia, you must be able to give Joran van der Sioot the same kind of courtesy you have enjoyed all these years.

Unless those ugly rumors are true. That you are out for revenge against the boy's father who was one of those prosecutors who was trying to mess up your smuggling business. Sorry your business of supplying goods to smugglers or maybe you want to ridicule the Aruban police, who for years were one of you nemesis, checking and rechecking your business activities your cargo and shipments, sometimes even confiscating contraband coming into Aruba, by the same boat captains, you were supplying with goods to be smuggled to other countries.

You have to realize Jossy, that innocent until proven guilty has to count the same for everybody, for you and for Joran, against whom there is practically no known proof, not even the certainty that a crime was committed.

And remember it isn't worth destroying Aruba's tourist economy, just to gain personal revenge.

Even though you may not want to admit it, Jossy, Aruba is not yours.

Aruba belongs to thousands of people, who want to make an honest living supplying services and a goods to thousands of visitors.

Don't spoil it for them with your stupidity and thirst for revenge.

Djarason17ougustus2005 ARUBA.La Prensa 23

AA.Jonckheer Publisher

1,401 posted on 08/24/2005 4:01:29 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Hey Texkat,
WTF, is this scenario? Classless or clueless. Certainly not my type of a refined woman.
You belong to the city,
NSNR-MVGF


1,402 posted on 08/24/2005 4:07:57 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Abigail Adams

Evening AA,
Maybe it has to do with the class of men they are trying to impress. I have high standards and therefore would have to exclude those type women bent on the gutter of entertainment.

I often wonder what ever happened to romance and all the good things in life?

My time machine broke down,
NSNR-TM


1,403 posted on 08/24/2005 4:15:49 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: All

Brother&Sister Freepers,
I just wanted to know if any of you know the where abouts of Gary Special Forces?

I have not seen our Brother on this thread and was wondering what is the low down?

Any intell would be appreciated on the low low.

With Pride and Honor I Salute My Fellow Freepers,

NSNR-JBM


1,404 posted on 08/24/2005 4:26:09 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: TexKat

however dramatic and poignant this piece seems, the following phrase is the one that stood out for me....it shows the exact nature behind it.....

"And remember it isn't worth destroying Aruba's tourist economy,...."

the act(s) that joran is involved in is what will destroy their tourist business, NOT OLD HISTORY ABOUT JOSSY


1,405 posted on 08/24/2005 4:44:08 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: MAWG

Constipated bulldog??? ROFLMAO!!! Good one Mawg!!


1,406 posted on 08/24/2005 4:45:08 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: justche

#1355 - I agree with you whole heartedly!! Paulus Van der Slut has NO PITY For Natalee. The sorry look is for HIMSELF and his spawn.!! He is NOT an honorable man in any way, shape or form. He's a liar and God knows what else.!! Beady-eyed, bucket sweating POS!!!


1,407 posted on 08/24/2005 4:48:08 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Lizarde

Don't know about Greta, Lizarde. Thought she had Jossy on plenty, but I haven't been paying much attention lately (she's on a little late for me—please don't laugh. Ok, you can.).

Maybe the brothers are turning against Joran. That would be good . . .


1,408 posted on 08/24/2005 4:56:56 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Have you searched to see if Gary Special Forces is posting on other threads. How exactly is his screen name spelled? I can't remember.


1,409 posted on 08/24/2005 4:57:26 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
Just posted SM

"Rumor has it ... Very reliable sources in Aruba ... The minister of Justice has asked all press to be at the court house at 7pm. I heard he is mad. It appears that one of the MSM from MSNBC got into the Jail this afternoon and interviewed Joran. About time someone did as far as I'm concerned. Seems like it would be the p" Red

1,410 posted on 08/24/2005 5:02:20 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Hi NSNR. She (Sophie Marceau—Braveheart, The World Is Not Enough) is penance for hurting MAWG's eyes with a picture of the new lawyer for the Twitty/Holloway family.

I'm just trying to keep my FRiends. :o)


1,411 posted on 08/24/2005 5:02:33 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: maggief

I also believe that Jossy seems to genuinely want to help Beth and Jug and Dave find their daughter and resolve what happened to her and by whom. I don't know what his "motive" is either but I do believe he is genuine in his efforts to help Beth!! Trappenburg is a typical politician. I don't trust or believe a word he says. Tito makes me want to scream. He is so OBVIOUSLY PRO-Defense and Anti-Prosecution.


1,412 posted on 08/24/2005 5:02:37 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Lizarde

Jossy is on everyone's show Lizarde. He is on Greta's show just about every night. Have you become jossyfied? Is Jossy your antidote for Charles Croes?


1,413 posted on 08/24/2005 5:04:29 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Very interesting reading, indeed! Thanks TexKat!


1,414 posted on 08/24/2005 5:08:38 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: theophilusscribe; truthluva

Ping to 1410.


1,415 posted on 08/24/2005 5:13:39 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

No kidding - This woman, whoever she is, seems to be the one who wants to get revenge!!


1,416 posted on 08/24/2005 5:15:12 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Some of us still believe in romance, and all those good things in life, darlin'.

My time machine's been broken a looooong time!


1,417 posted on 08/24/2005 5:15:55 PM PDT by Mama25 (The only chaps a girl can trust are those she wears.)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

I have been wondering where Gary had gone to also??? I miss his always informative posts.


1,418 posted on 08/24/2005 5:16:24 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: monkeywrench

Whoohoo - THAT IS GREAT NEWS!!


1,419 posted on 08/24/2005 5:18:05 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Canadian Outrage

Those sneaky msnbc'ers. Do you think it might be a setup? More smear Natalee or whatever. Do you think it could compromise the case?


1,420 posted on 08/24/2005 5:21:04 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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