Rush Limbaugh's Morning Update: Intelligent Design

RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 8/18/05 | Rush Limbaugh

[wagglebee]

Once again, proof that embryonic stem cells aren’t the only “miracle” cure for all that ails us. And more importantly, understanding how crocodiles heal points to a pretty intelligent design in nature.

Actually, there isn't any proof that embryonic stem cells are of any value.

[Just mythoughts]

Go RUSH, anybody want to ping the evols????

[PetroniusMaximus]

*** Actually, there isn't any proof that embryonic stem cells are of any value.***

They are to the embryo!

:)

[wagglebee]

Intelligent Design Ping!

[wagglebee]

Stupid me!

[Lurking Libertarian]

And more importantly, understanding how crocodiles heal points to a pretty intelligent design in nature.

Can you say "non sequitur"? I knew you could!

[Bombardier]

I see nothing there indicative of intelligent design, just the results of a vertebrate having adapted for life in an environment where there is possibility of extreme infection (a swamp). In fact, what I see is the result of natural selection, ie, those croc with stronger immune systems lived to breed and those with weaker systems died. Most mammals never emerged from swamp dwelling creatures and thus never had need to develop such resistant immune systems.

Interesting article, though.

[philo]

Suspect: Dr. Curt Conners AKA The Lizard
Paging Spiderman

[gathersnomoss]

Pick up "A Case For A Creator". Intelligent design is fully investigated.

[gathersnomoss]

Do some reading is my suggestion. Pick up A Case For A Creator. Get back to me.

[Bombardier]

Maybe you should, too. I suggest the Creationism Debunked website.

[Ostlandr]

Not just Crocs. Komodo Dragons have so many varieties of nasty bacteria in their mouths that they can normally give a deer, pig or human one good bite, and if the prey escapes they just hand around and wait for it to die of disease. The Komodos, meanwhile, are immune to all these nasty bugs.

As far as intelligent desgin theory, why do people insist on separating the Creator from Creation?

[gathersnomoss]

I take that as a challenge.

[Joee]

I wish he would continue his opinions on the Hawaiians become a recognized separate entity. He had em going for a while.

[lOKKI]

How clever of the intelligent designer to have hidden the cure for HIV in crocodiles!

Who would have thought to look there?

[Bombardier]

Take it however you want it, Pal, but know this: I believe in God, but also don't take Genesis literally. Never have, never will. I also am aware of the dubious (at best) credentials of creation "scientists." Religion is faith. It requires someone to take a leap to believe in a higher power. Science is fact. It can be observed. It can be tested. Genera and species are only named by man, it's arbitrary when one species becomes another.....and often determined by a statistical analysis of various characters of a specimen.

As an example, what separates Homo sapiens from Homo ergaster, or more appropriately, what separates hominids from other primates? Basic characters. Not brain size, but walking erect. What separates Homo from Australopithecus? Various characters such as dentition, brain capacity, and most of all tool making ability (cultural factor). Species divisions are essentially arbitrary....a 200,000 year old Homo sapiens skull from China is different in detail from a 200 year old skull from France, but there is enough similarity statistically to place them in the same species. Fact, not faith.

I've heard every creationist argument you can think of and they all boil down to misrepresenting paleontology, physics, anthropology (both physical and cultural), biology, genetics, history and every other science and academic discipline you can think of.

If you want a board fight, you can go somewhere else because you aren't getting one from me. I have my faith in God and Jesus Christ, but I also know that Genesis is about the power and the majesty of God, and to reduce God's word to a simple fable about where man came from, rather than being a message about God's authority strikes me as blasphemous. I won't belittle my God by doing that. I respect and worship Him too much to take His work and make it as simple as these frauds would do.

[Bombardier]

Just to point out who these folks are:

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2437/whoare.htm

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2437/aims.htm

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2437/design.htm

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2437/diagenda.html

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2437/wedge.html

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2437/doctor.htm


These are lengthy, but also very informative.

[LiteKeeper]

SPOTREP - ID

[TailspinJim]

Speaking of Genesis, read "Genesis And The Big Bang" and "The Science Of God", both by Dr. Gerald L. Schroeder, former MIT Prof. now teaching in Israel.