Pat Tillman did not have to join. But he did.
Posted on 08/18/2005 2:35:56 PM PDT by StudentsForBush
Pat Tillman did not have to join. But he did.
Thank you for the link. No one holds a candle to Rush. Today's show was better than most church sermons I've heard, lately.
Never took the oath, eh? You get an order, you go.
Impressive rant, but Rush neveer answered the guy's question. Why DON'T more CEO's politicians, etc. have kids in uniform? A few do, but most don't. No matter what your position on the war, that's a valid question IMHO.
It's easy to put a yellow magnet on your car and say "I support the troops." But for too many people that's as far as it goes.
He DID answer the question. You must not have been listening. IT'S A VOLUNTEER FORCE. IT'S A PERSONAL CHOICE, just like being a teacher or a cop is a personal choice. My mom was a nurse and wanted me to follow in her footsteps, but I didn't want to be a nurse!
I have a yellow magnet on my car. My husband retired from the military after serving for 26 years. Every man in my family has been in the military. Better to have a yellow magnet on your car (a sign that you care about the folks in uniform) than some other things I've seen.
When will they start the next civil war so we can end this Bullshiite, They are lucky this is'nt the 40's when Hollywood was on our side,and we didn't round up all the muslims and throw them into internment camps. In my opinion Bush made one mistake with this war, it should have been over 9/11&1/2. When are we going to let the devil dogs loose and stop this PC nonsense?!
NO Wait, yeah we need Hitlary in office, so all of our troops can go AWOL because we have another "leader" that no one respects, and then the terrorist who are here in our country can slit their liberal throats until they come running and screaming and begging real Americans to save them and do you know what they will find?
The barrel of my gun....... So run Hitlary Klinton....you've got my vote.
It's funny that you actually think that was the guy's "question."
Compassionate conservative = Rush. If only he could run this country. Can you imagine it? I certainly can!
Thanks, Rush!!!
Maybe Jenna, but not pigface.....wait a minute, that would scare the $hit out of the enemy.
That's it...exactly it!
ping darlin'
>>How many families in your neighborhood have a son or daughter in Iraq? What is the ratio of congressmen with sons/daughters in the military to the general population? Do you have a son or daughter in Iraq?<<
I don't have any kids, and I'm currently too old to join, all that may change if Congress raises the age. My sister's husband is career Navy. He's stateside now, but has been to the Middle East several times, and probably will go again. The son of some close friends is slated to deploy to Iraq later this year, and the prayer list for my church has somewhere in the neighborhood of forty or fifty people either in Iraq or Afghanistan, or headed there soon. I don't know if that's "typical" or not, but just to give you an idea where I'm coming from.
At one time in this country, there was a sense among the social and/or political and/or economic elites that along with their priviledge came responsibility. Sure there were shirkers, but when there was an emergency, the bluebloods answered the call along with everyone else. Teddy Roosevelt's Rough Riders were just about evenly divided between western cowboys and miners, and TR's socialite pals from back east. Somewhere along the way that ethic has been lost, and people are starting to notice.
Somebody posted that the kid of some political leader would make a prime target. That they would, but that didn't stop FDR's and TR's sons from volunteering. FDR's Jimmmy was a Marine Raider in WWII. TR's son Quentin was a pilot killed in action in WWI, and Teddy Jr served in both world wars and was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions on D-Day at Utah Beach.
Nobody can force someone to have a sense of duty. But we should be asking why so many of priviledge don't.
Don't get all hot and bothered. If the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it. But we both know that there are a lot of people who slap a a magnet on their car and never give another thought to the people in uniform.
I'm not trying to be rude, but are you dense?
What part of volunteer do you not understand?
It EXACTLY answers the question.
Additionally, the question he was asked wasn't "hostile", it was inane.
And, in the military you are a soldier, celebrity doesn't count. It's irrelevant whose son or daughter someone is. Other posters are right, a known "VIP" or celebrity would just increase risk. I don't want someone in the military because someone thinks it would 'look good', I want someone there because that's where they want to be.
So the children of the rich and famous now get an automatic pass?
If we had a draft, they don't have to go because it's "too dangerous"?
Every service man and woman in Iraq is in danger of being "kidnapped and held hostage, being taken and tortured(including raped) on video, ditto having their heads chopped off, or being assassinated on the spot", and Jenna and Chelsea - should they choose to serve - would just have to take their chances along with everybody else.
Wake up. So they could just join the military and bop over to serve in Iraq??? I don't think so. In fact, I KNOW not so.
And you know this how? In America military service - and requests for hazardous duty - by the children of prominent politicians and upper-class families was until recently a point of honor in such circles.
Probably the most famous example is that of James Roosevelt - the eldest son of President Franklin Roosevelt - who repeatedly requested such assignments and received both a Navy Cross and Army Silver Star for heroism in separate engagements, and who I doubt expected deluxe hotel accommodations if captured by the Japanese. And this sort of sacrifice was typical of the period; there was nothing unusual about a rich and prominate family such as Joseph Kennedy’s losing one son in the AAF over Europe in nearly losing another in the Pacific - it’s only in the last generation or so that it’s become fashionable to pursue “other priorities” while other people’s children do the fighting.
And if a Bush or Clinton daughter decided to enlist, you can be sure that the US military would handle it just fine – they would check their Secret Service Agents at the gate, and the military would bend over backwards to see that they were treated... just like everyone else.
El Rushbo at his best!
Thanks for posting. :o)
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Thanks for posting that - I was starting to feel pretty lonely in this thread.
It’s still hard for me to believe that are people who feel it’s too risky for "VIPs” to serve - next thing you know they will be saying that they can’t go to jail for their crimes like other citizens, either – that what with the fact that they are not used to this sort of life, and the possible jealousy and envy, it’s DANGEROUS for them in there!
Well, you could argue that this another manifestation of the mentality that allows celebrities like Michael Jackson to get off scot free.
I think this nation's founders would be appalled, both at the attitude of the elites, and at the attitude of those who condone them.
One thing I've noticed on the show, and it has happened to me when I've called in, when it's a chance to make a point, and one that is uncomfortable for him to handle or he's left himself open, he's dispatched the caller into neverland.Fullabull.
He's spent MORE time with some of the non-entertaing 'libs' than he really has HAD to. It can really get rather boring, listening to the same droning moronic 'tone' lib after lib or moderate after moderate.
DOLLARS to any donuts you may have - that you were boring or pedantic.
Do you happen to know the date and hour you were 'on'?
While he did spend more time with me than this guy, the dialog I was setting up was just that. A way to get him to concretely commit to a position that I knew he wouldn't want to. When he realized that I was dispatched. I had the dialog bookmarked, but it expired.
Similarly, he also insisted I was a full blown conservative when I insisited I was a moderate in another conversation. That was in July of 2001. It was when people were beginning to grouse that Bush was indeed a moderate and he was wondering why and what moderates really are.
The other thing is some calls appear to be set up calls. He will go on something totally off the topic of his show, and viola within 60 seconds there's a caller with his topic. Funny, but as hard as it is to get on his show, how can someone get through so fast? I think it was the same with the caller with the elected officials question.
Listen closely. You can her them.
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