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Turkey Diplomatically Warns Iraq and Threatens of Military Penetration in the North [of Iraq]
Al Iraq Al Youm via Al Mendhar ^ | 2005 Aug 18

Posted on 08/18/2005 11:12:08 AM PDT by Wiz

Turkey is preparing for sending a diplomatic memorandum to Iraq, where it sees a crucial threat against the unity of Turkish lands. In the memorandum, turkey is reminding Iraq of its pledges and responsibilities, which are represented in overcoming and preventing terrorist sneaking from the north to Turkish lands, in a step that prepares for the possibility of the penetration of Turkish army in the north of Iraq.

According to Turkey's Watan Newspaper, Ankara decided to register the first diplomatic memorandum to the new Iraqi government in the UN records, to be a witness that turkey has reminded Iraq of its responsibilities towards turkey as a neighbor.

(Excerpt) Read more at almendhar.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: lugsoul
I'll take all of that action I can get...

Me, too. People forget that, absent us and the Russians, the Turks are the big dogs in the Middle East. In the 19th century, the Turks showed they could handle the Russians, too.

The Israelis are scrappy and well-equipped, but in a straight fight on the ground with the Turks? Man, I don't know. It'd be a damn sight tougher fight than anything Israel had ever been in.

Besides, Israel and Turkey have a special side relationship, anyway.

But all those other Arab states? Against the Turks, they'd be dogmeat. Just the way it is.

I think the Turks could probably whip anyone between Germany and India, Russia and the South Pole.

41 posted on 08/18/2005 7:41:11 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: mobyss

"BTW - did you know that Turkey has a city called 'Batman'? I'm not kidding - I wonder if they have a Spiderman or Aquaman somewhere?"

Melbourne Australia was nearly called Batman too. It still has a suburb called Batman and one of the main city thoroughfares is called Batman Avenue, it has a hill could Batman's Hill, a college called Batman Tafe, a Batman railway station and so on.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_railway_station,_Melbourne

Make of it what you will the fact Batman died of syphillus


42 posted on 08/18/2005 7:50:52 PM PDT by Dave Elias
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To: lentulusgracchus
Yep. The 'new Iraqi army' isn't even able to deal with a smattering of extremists. It would get its clocked cleaned, and good, by the professional Turkish army.

The Turks have not exactly exhibited a great deal of restraint when dealing with Kurdish issues, either...

43 posted on 08/19/2005 7:22:33 AM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: lugsoul

- Turkey threatens with invading.
- People thinks its so funny.
- World cuts aid maybe(?)
- Military help stopped.
- Turkey still going to invade.

Cyprus 1974. Something to take serious?


44 posted on 08/22/2005 10:09:08 AM PDT by Xargoth
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To: Xargoth

Absolutely.


45 posted on 08/22/2005 10:13:49 AM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: toolboy

Actually I'm not sure how well you can live with Turkish Islam. Maybe you can live with Turkish secularism: the military stamps on all attempts of religion to influence government, whether Muslim or Christian. Turkish Islam qua Islam without the restraint of the militantly secularist elite in Turkey isn't any more palatable than the Saudi variety.


46 posted on 08/22/2005 10:44:31 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know . . .)
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To: Wiz

Turkey reminds me of France - didn't do crap in the fighting but ran to the table when it was time for desert. I wish I was president.


47 posted on 08/22/2005 10:55:50 AM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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To: ScreamingFist

The Kurds are a bunch of Syrian backed terrorists, deal with it.




Full of it (ignorant BS) as usual.


48 posted on 08/23/2005 1:16:46 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121
Full of it (ignorant BS) as usual.

Other Names Kurdistan Workers’ Party PKK Kurdistan Freedom and Democracy Congress KADEK Kurdistan People’s Congress Freedom and Democracy Congress of Kurdistan

Description

The Kongra-Gel was founded by Abdullah Ocalan in 1974 as a Marxist-Leninist separatist organization and formally named the Kurdistan Workers’ Party in 1978. The group, composed primarily of Turkish Kurds, began its campaign of armed violence in 1984, which has resulted in some 30,000 casualties. The PKK’s goal has been to establish an independent, democratic Kurdish state in southeast Turkey, northern Iraq, and parts of Iran and Syria. In the early 1990s, the PKK moved beyond rural-based insurgent activities to include urban terrorism. Turkish authorities captured Ocalan in Kenya in early 1999, and the Turkish State Security Court subsequently sentenced him to death. In August 1999, Ocalan announced a "peace initiative," ordering members to refrain from violence and requesting dialogue with Ankara on Kurdish issues. At a PKK Congress in January 2000, members supported Ocalan’s initiative and claimed the group now would use only political means to achieve its public goal of improved rights for Kurds in Turkey. In April 2002 at its 8th Party Congress, the PKK changed its name to the Kurdistan Freedom and Democracy Congress (KADEK) and proclaimed a commitment to non-violent activities in support of Kurdish rights. In late 2003, the group sought to engineer another political face-lift, renaming itself Kongra-Gel (KGK) and promoting its "peaceful" intentions while continuing to conduct attacks in "self-defense" and to refuse disarmament. After five years, the group’s hard-line militant wing, the People’s Defense Force (HPG), renounced its self-imposed cease-fire on June 1, 2004. Over the course of the cease-fire, the group had divided into two factions -- politically-minded reformists, and hardliners who advocated a return to violence. The hardliners took control of the group in February 2004.

Activities

Primary targets have been Turkish Government security forces, local Turkish officials, and villagers who oppose the organization in Turkey. It conducted attacks on Turkish diplomatic and commercial facilities in dozens of West European cities in 1993 and again in spring 1995. In an attempt to damage Turkey’s tourist industry, the then-PKK bombed tourist sites and hotels and kidnapped foreign tourists in the early-to-mid-1990s. While most of the group’s violence in 2004 was directed toward Turkish security forces, KGK was likely responsible for an unsuccessful July car bomb attack against the governor of Van Province, although it publicly denied responsibility, and may have played a role in the August bombings of two Istanbul hotels and a gas complex in which two people died.

Strength

Approximately 4,000 to 5,000, 3,000 to 3,500 of whom currently are located in northern Iraq. The group has thousands of sympathizers in Turkey and Europe. In November, Dutch police raided a suspected KGK training camp in The Netherlands, arresting roughly 30 suspected members. .

Location/Area of Operation Operates primarily in Turkey, Iraq, Europe, and the Middle East.

External Aid

Has received safe haven and modest aid from Syria, Iraq, and Iran. Syria and Iran appear to cooperate with Turkey against KGK in a limited fashion when it serves their immediate interests. KGK uses Europe for fundraising and conducting political propaganda.

Like I said, deal with.....

49 posted on 08/23/2005 1:39:50 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Stupidity. NRA)
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To: ScreamingFist
It. And save your temper tantrums for your mommy.
50 posted on 08/23/2005 1:43:05 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Stupidity. NRA)
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To: Wiz

If they start fighting each other again, we should just get out of the way. Secular turkish rule of the area might not be a totally bad thing.


51 posted on 08/23/2005 1:44:53 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: ScreamingFist

Copy and paste is your best friend it seems. Have you ever done any independent research? NOT. Try it sometime.

The Kurdish people are not some monolithic terror enterprise as your Mooslem Turks would have your royal naivete believe.

Hope this helps...really


52 posted on 08/23/2005 1:48:24 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121
Have you ever done any independent research? NOT. Try it sometime.

Sure have, lived in Diyarbakir (I'll let you look it up on a map) while kurd turds gunned down school teachers, farmers and any other civilians they could find. Support a bunch of Syrian backed Marxists if you choose, just don't expect the rest of us to be so stupid.

53 posted on 08/23/2005 1:55:09 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Stupidity. NRA)
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To: eleni121
The Kurdish people are not some monolithic terror enterprise as your Mooslem Turks would have your royal naivete believe.

Crickets chirping.........waiting for your awesome rebuttal.....with the facts........

54 posted on 08/23/2005 5:57:34 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Stupidity. NRA)
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To: eleni121

Never mind. I just read some of your previous posts. Get psychiatric help.....


55 posted on 08/23/2005 6:11:26 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Stupidity. NRA)
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To: ScreamingFist

The Kurdish people enjoy many politcal parties although the brainwashed such as yourself are aware of only one: the one your Turkish Mooslem masters told you about.

Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDPIq)
Kurdistan Toilers Party Party in Iraqi Kurdistan
Kurdistan Socialist Democrat Party
Democratic National Union of Kurdistan
Rizgary Party of Kurdistan Kudistan Liberation Pary
Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK)
Democratic Party of Kurdistan (Lebanon)
Partiya Demokrat a Kurdistan - Bakur (PDK)
Kurdish Democratic Party in Syria (Alparty)
United Kurdish Democratic Party in Syria (Yekity)
Kurdish Popular Union Party in Syria (Hevgirtin)
Partiya Karkeren Kurdistan (PKK) Kurdistan Workers Party
Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK)
Eniya Rizgariya Netewa Kurdistan (ERNK)
National Liberation Front of Kurdistan
Artesa Rizgariya Gele Kurdistan (ARGK) People's Liberation Army of Kurdistan
Kurdistan Communist Party
The Socialist Party of Kurdistan (PSK)

Halkin Demokrasi Partisi (HADEP) Democratic People's Party
Komala The Kurdistan organization of Communist Party of Iran
Democratic Party of Iranian Kurdistan
Democratic Party of Iranian Kurdistan Sweden
The Revolutionary Khabat Organization of Iranian Kurdistan
Democratic Union of Iranian Kurdistan

Kurdish Democratic Party in Syria (Alpartî)
Islamic Kurdish League (IKL)


56 posted on 08/23/2005 8:04:01 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: ScreamingFist

Little busybody aren't you? Methinks you suffer from an overdose of baklava and dolma.

I think you did too much of this over there: götünü yalamak


57 posted on 08/23/2005 8:11:44 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121
The Kurdish people enjoy many politcal parties although the brainwashed such as yourself are aware of only one: the one your Turkish Mooslem masters told you about.

Duh, thanks for the insight. The Turks are killing PKK, and will continue to do so. As for the rest of your lunatic ramblings.....seek professional help.

58 posted on 08/24/2005 4:00:18 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Stupidity. NRA)
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To: ScreamingFist

Turks do not distinguish between Marxist Leninist Kurds and the 99% of other Kurdish people.

And let me remind you that the Mooslem Tirks are historically the most brutal terrorists of all.



59 posted on 08/24/2005 2:32:19 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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