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MSM can't ignore these people.
1 posted on 08/18/2005 9:43:44 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: SueRae

Someone is sweating in Chappaqua.


2 posted on 08/18/2005 9:45:01 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: SueRae

Where is Brathwaite now?


3 posted on 08/18/2005 9:45:01 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: SueRae
"I don’t think you can understate the significance here,”

I suppose you mean "overstate". It's been understated quite well recently.

4 posted on 08/18/2005 9:46:09 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: SueRae
Consider me among the Outraged. And a new panel is definitely in order.
5 posted on 08/18/2005 9:46:20 AM PDT by Lone Red Ranger (Never let the weeds get higher than the garden...)
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To: SueRae

Sorry, the "Jersey Girls" are the only 9/11 "families" that get noticed by the MSM. How much you wanna bet Kristin Breitweiser and co. will find nothing much to be outraged about regarding the "Able Danger" revelations.

We all know what the 9/11 commission's real objective was.


6 posted on 08/18/2005 9:46:55 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: SueRae
Sept. 11 Advocates - Are these the "Jersey Girls"?

We all should be outraged!
7 posted on 08/18/2005 9:48:45 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: SueRae
"MSM can't ignore these people."

Oh, they can--at least for a while. This group needs to start doing the talk radio/Fox News tour a la Weldon and Lt. Col. Shaffer (and the Swiftees). Then, the MSM will no longer be able to ignore the 800 lb. gorilla in the room...

8 posted on 08/18/2005 9:48:50 AM PDT by eureka! (Hey Lefties: Only 3 and 1/2 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: SueRae

This is as far as this story is going to get, in NewsMax. The MSM isn't going to report it, if they do, they'll spin it as being anti-Bush anyway.


10 posted on 08/18/2005 9:49:39 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: SueRae
This story is not about to just go away.
Conservative talk radio is doing a great job on the Able Danger story.
Jamie Gorelick needs to be forced to step down from the 911 committee.
11 posted on 08/18/2005 9:50:00 AM PDT by pro610 (Faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains.Praise Jesus Christ!)
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To: SueRae

'Paging Warren Christopher . . please report to the Courtesy Desk'


17 posted on 08/18/2005 10:04:02 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: SueRae

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/

Able Danger: More Sources Forthcoming?
Deborah Orin continues her coverage of Able Danger, rivalling that of the cross-town Times which initially broke the story, with an interesting and somewhat contradictory follow-up with the first public source, Col. Tony Shaffer. Shaffer points out that he initially did not know that Able Danger had specifically identified Atta prior to 9/11, but did know that al-Qaeda agents had been identified as such:

Shaffer said Atta's name didn't ring a bell when he learned the hijackers' names after 9/11. But he got "a sinking feeling in my stomach" when the woman Ph.D. in charge of Able Danger's data analysis told him Atta was one of those who had been identified as a likely al Qaeda terrorist by Able Danger.
"My friend the doctor [Ph.D.] who did all the charts and ran the technology showed me the chart and said, 'Look, we had this, we knew them, we knew this.' And it was a sinking feeling, it was like, 'Oh my God, you know. We could have done something.' " ...

He said the unit tried three times to alert the FBI that it had identified al Qaeda cells in the United States — but military lawyers nixed it. Shaffer also says he alerted the 9/11 commission in October 2003 about how Able Danger identified Atta — but commission staffers blew him off and failed to properly follow up.


Shaffer has predicted that this PhD will come forward publicly in the next few days, just as soon as she gets assurances that she will suffer no retaliation for talking about the program publicly. The other source, the Navy captain who tried to get the Commission to investigate Able Danger in 2004, still wants his name withheld. However, Orin reports that the AP outed him yesterday. His rank and expertise in futuristic naval warfare has been apparently confirmed by the news agency. [CQ will not use his name until/unless he does so publicly himself out of consideration for his current assignment.]

Shaffer also added an interesting detail to the Able Danger story. Several CQ readers have wondered whether the program still exists. Shaffer says that his liaison to the program shut down months before the attack on the order of a "risk-averse" commanding general at DIA. In fact, this general had to order Shaffer to cut all ties with Able Danger, explicitly pulling rank over Shaffer's objections. His files at the DIA on Able Danger have also gone missing from their last known storage location, although the Pentagon has started a search, and files get jockeyed around enough to know that this may well be a simple case of misplacement.

It sounds like at least two more shoes may drop on Able Danger and the information it provided military intelligence. If the other sources involved in the actual data collection and analysis come forward, expect this to blow up even larger at the expense of the 9/11 Commission who ignored it


20 posted on 08/18/2005 10:07:00 AM PDT by Thumbellina (As I recall, Kerry referred to terrorism as "overrated".)
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To: SueRae

This story has acquired seven league boots.

I hope Charles Krauthammer (who I admire) backs off his dismissive first attitude. And is properly embarrassed.


21 posted on 08/18/2005 10:09:09 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: SueRae
Tinfoil hat on....Does anyone think maybe the government let the terrorists hit U.S. soil???...maybe it was the only way we could get the American public behind an ACTUAL war.....
27 posted on 08/18/2005 10:24:19 AM PDT by Getsmart64
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To: SueRae

Yikes, The 9/11 Omission Commyission is getting together on 9/12/05 to discuss their "report card" at a press conference scheduled to be viewed LIVE/CANNED on C-SPAN. Maybe these families outrages can be heard THERE!!

http://www.9-11pdp.org/ua/index.htm

The 9/11 Commission Report: The Unfinished Agenda
Printable schedule and location information (PDF)


June 6th
CIA AND FBI REFORM
Moderator: Jamie S. Gorelick
Panelists: Richard Thornburgh, John Gannon, Chitra Ragavan

June 13th CHALLENGES FACING THE DNI
Moderator: John F. Lehman
Panelists: Jane Harman, William O. Studeman, Siobhan Gorman

June 27th TERRORISM AND WMD
Moderator: Timothy J. Roemer
Panelists: Part I - Sam Nunn
Part II - Steve Brill, Ash Carter, Leonard Spector, Juliette Kayyem

June 28th SECURING THE HOMELAND
Moderator: Bob Kerrey
Panelists: Clark Kent Ervin, C. Stewart Verdery, Jr., Stephen Flynn, William Raisch, Edward Lambert, Jr.

July 11th CONGRESSIONAL REFORM
Moderator: Slade Gorton
Panelists: The Hon. Pat Roberts and the Hon. Thomas S. Foley

July 18th CIVIL LIBERTIES AND SECURITY
Moderators: Richard Ben-Veniste and Fred F. Fielding
Panelists: Part I: William Barr, Philip Heymann, Jenny Martinez, Stuart Taylor
Part II: Rep. Christopher Shays, Rep. Carolyn Maloney, Rep. Bennie Thompson, Former Rep. Mickey Edwards, The Rt. Hon. Kim Campbell

August 2nd FOREIGN POLICY
Moderator: Lee H. Hamilton
Panelists: A. Elizabeth Jones, Dennis Ross

September 1st WINNING THE STRUGGLE OF IDEAS
Moderator: Thomas H. Kean

September 12th Report Card on Implementation & Press Conference with Former Commissioners

All Unfinished Agenda events take place at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars 6th floor auditorium, from 9:30-11:30 a.m., unless otherwise noted.
All events will be televised (most live) on C-SPAN or C-SPAN 2. Please see www.c-span.org for each day's schedule.

Has anyone posted this yet? I haven't heard anyone anywhere mention this!



30 posted on 08/18/2005 10:37:35 AM PDT by IR8-1
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To: SueRae
(Sept. 11 Advocates) I am not sure of the background of this particular group, but I remember some very vocal members of a group of victims families at the hearings. They had some very firm preconceived notions that Bush was to blame and actually cheered when Sen Bob Kerrey gave his lecture to Condi.
34 posted on 08/18/2005 10:43:57 AM PDT by JIM O
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To: SueRae

In the real world, this should come back to haunt hildabeast and the evil one. Since we don't live in the real world, they'll try to blame Bush. Hopefully this time, something will stick to hildabeast other that old crusty!


46 posted on 08/18/2005 12:29:31 PM PDT by Lucky2 (Lucky2 loves the NY Yankees.)
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To: SueRae
Oh no? Watch. The MSM is bending over backwards to try and deflate this story as quickly as possible all the while saying..."well we covered it." The only way to beat these Clinton rumpswabs is to have open hearings in congress.

I don't trust the media on this at all. Open hearings will bind their hands. Richard Clarke, Jamie Gorelicker, and the commissioners from the 9/11 panel under oath...PRICELESS.

JEDI
47 posted on 08/18/2005 4:55:56 PM PDT by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: SueRae

Has anyone mentioned the horrible irony of this?
The Pentagon.


48 posted on 08/18/2005 5:03:52 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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