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Gay Teacher Question for Freepers (Vanity)
None | 8/17/05 | Dr._Joseph_Warren

Posted on 08/17/2005 7:58:48 AM PDT by Dr._Joseph_Warren

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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren

You're a father of four. What do you think?


461 posted on 08/17/2005 1:37:30 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: longtermmemmory

Or a sitting President getting blow jobs....people who said at that time that personal illicit behavior DOES affect the whole person are now saying that it doesn't.

Well, does it, or doesn't it?

Their only argument is that homosexual behavior is normal and natural and therefore is of no concern.

The truth is that illicit, immoral behavior affects one's whole life. You can't compartmentalize a life. Things seep. And same sex desires and acts are disordered.


462 posted on 08/17/2005 1:37:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren

yes no no


463 posted on 08/17/2005 1:38:13 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Mr. Chambers! Don't get on that ship! The rest of the book, "To Serve Man", it's... it's a cookbook!)
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To: Rembrandt_fan

Now you are conveniently in the Prof Lakoff propaganda territory. (for those who don't know, Lakoff is the new DNC guru who says all homosexual issues should be "framed" as "love")

This issue here is not wheather any adults interacting as adults have a problem.

This troll thread was started on the issue of open homosexuals interacting which children of any age. Homosexuals should NOT interact with children. Parents MUST have the right to remove children from the presense of homosexuality.

Homosexuality IS a deviance. If those homosexuals are so "mortified" as you say then they should be the first in line to seek treatment for their deviant fetish. They should be the first to avoid their presence open or otherwise before impressionable children.

Love is irrelevant in this debate. It is only a last bastion of those parroting propaganda talking points.


464 posted on 08/17/2005 1:40:01 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
If the teacher had a history of being an excellent teacher and being able to get kids to think, learn and understand applications of the material being learned, then his or her sexuality wouldn't matter. Of course, if that teacher promoted his sexuality, which souldn't be brought up at all in a classroom, I'd have grave concerns. All in all, why would a teacher have to state his/her sexuality at all in the class room? Because the "trend" amongst homosexual activists today,is to PROMOTE their perverted lifestyle as NORMAL and "alternative". If you allow a homosexual teacher into a classroom, that is the chance you will be taking of this person trying to indoctrinate your child into their homosexual lifestyle.
465 posted on 08/17/2005 1:41:55 PM PDT by micho
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian

Click this link and read up, especially the section about schools.

http://www.freerepublic.com/~scripter/
Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links


Then get back to the discussion.

Unless the reason you're on the thread is to promote the "gay" agenda, that is.


466 posted on 08/17/2005 1:44:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren

Yes, we homeschooled for reasons like this.


467 posted on 08/17/2005 1:47:49 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Rembrandt_fan
But after knowing several gay couples who have loved each other and--in one instance--have been together for over a decade, faithful and caring, and telling them their love is wrong would be, in my view, wrong. Simply not my call to make. That judgment on the rightness of their love belongs to a Higher Authority, not me. Or you.

You are misguided? Love does not require a sexual act... You may know many that truly love others and happen to practice depraved intrinsically evil sex acts with some of them... SO WHAT.... Does love make sin okay -think not...

468 posted on 08/17/2005 1:49:07 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: little jeremiah

I want no homosexual teachers in the classroom.


469 posted on 08/17/2005 1:49:29 PM PDT by phil1750 (Love like you've never been hurt;Dance like nobody's watching;PRAY like it's your last prayer)
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To: longtermmemmory
Nope, sorry, I don't do propaganda or 're-framing'. If you had read any of my previous posts, either on this thread or anywhere else, you'll find I speak my mind and conscience. I always allow for the possibility (or sometimes, the very high probability) that I'm wrong on any given issue or topic.

Back to the point, though: I'd have serious problems with one of my children's teachers promoting a gay lifestyle. I would also have about the same reaction if, for example, one of their teachers started using the Old Testament as a science textbook.
470 posted on 08/17/2005 1:51:41 PM PDT by Rembrandt_fan
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To: libsl
I have a friend whose father did not allow him to watch Mr. Rogers when he was little because the father considered Mr. Rogers to be effeminate and not a proper role model.

My closest childhood friend was not allowed to watch Mr. Rogers for the same reason.

471 posted on 08/17/2005 1:52:38 PM PDT by Clemenza (Pirro is Hillary with an (R))
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To: DBeers
It is funny that you employ sex in your user name yet argue it irrelevant embracing gender ambiguity

Whatever are you talking about?

is this where I call you a heterophobe now and you continue to protest the 'fact' that you are not protesting...

Heterophobe? Whatever makes you say that?

472 posted on 08/17/2005 1:54:13 PM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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To: little jeremiah
Thank you. I was going to find JR's statement; I thought the thread needed it.

Try a text edior like wordpad -I myself keep several text files on various topics I am interested in and debate etcetera. I keep the files topical and refine them over time... One such text file is JR's statement that I can as a result open reference cut and paste faster than a gunfighter can draw a weapon...

473 posted on 08/17/2005 1:54:35 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: scripter

I wholeheartedly admire your reasoned tone, the truth you continute to spread, and the respect you show everyone.

The truth is the truth - there are former homosexuals, more and more. Just as there are former alcoholics. And, some have to struggle with desires for the same sex or alcohol for some time, and others do not.

People have choices, and can change.


474 posted on 08/17/2005 1:54:43 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian

The fact that there are FORMER homosexuals is what the important point here.

Former - not current, used to be. Got it?


475 posted on 08/17/2005 1:57:08 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Dr._Joseph_Warren
I really don't care unless the teacher tries to change my child's moral values or talk politics in a class that isn't politically oriented.
476 posted on 08/17/2005 1:57:42 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: DBeers

LOL! You should see my desktop. I actually used to have JR's statement on a document for istant copying, gotta do it again.


477 posted on 08/17/2005 1:58:50 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: little jeremiah
So, according to your so-called logic, a group of former alcholics means nothing, that alcoholics can't stop drinking, becuase only those who wanted to stop drinking joined organizations that help people stop drinking or sought therapy or stopped on their own.

There's really no such thing as a "former alcoholic," either.

But it's not a bad analogy to homosexuality, in some ways. An alcoholic can stop drinking, but the urge to have another drink will always be there.

Similarly, a gay person can stop having sex with their own gender, but the urge will still always be there.

In your little world of make believe, only if alcoholics who DON'T want to stop drinking are somehow forced to stop, does it mean that alcoholics can change.

Alcoholics can stop drinking, but they still remain alcoholics.

478 posted on 08/17/2005 1:59:11 PM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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To: Rembrandt_fan

regardless, you are just parroting the same DNC talking points which are now adopted by democrats. Even if you discovered the spin on your own, it still duplicates the DNC spin.

"love" is used to obscure the issue. The mere existence of a homosexual in the classroom is inappropriate around children. That has nothing to do with love or affection or even tollerance.

You are promoting the mistaken notion of a "private life" around children. A teacher is not a private individual around children in the class.


479 posted on 08/17/2005 2:00:01 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Modernman

not exactly, the whole alcholic is a disease thing started as a means to have treatment covered by insurance.


480 posted on 08/17/2005 2:01:05 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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