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Biology Prof: Evolution Isn’t Theory, it’s Fact
Human Events ^ | August 17 | Christopher Flickinger

Posted on 08/17/2005 7:44:13 AM PDT by PApatriot1

Did you hear the news? Evolution is no longer a theory. It’s a fact! I know, I can’t believe it either. Wait, you haven’t heard about this breakthrough discovery? Well, you might want to check with Professor Colin Purrington, an evolutionary biologist who teaches at Swarthmore College in Pennsylvania. Professor Purrington says, “Evolution is a ‘theory’ like gravity is a ‘theory.’”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anothercrevothread; college; enoughalready; evolution; god; makeitstop; notagain; professor; science
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To: theFIRMbss
Now That's a CREATION if I ever saw one, now matter how you think she came about :)
141 posted on 08/17/2005 3:40:39 PM PDT by CMOTB (Painfully Beautiful)
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To: js1138
Actually, foxes have been bred into something like a dog

Thats the Russian experiement isn't it?

Wolves and dogs can be interbread. I don't remember about this fox thing.

I suspect that isolated populations may take a considerable period of time before breeding becomes completely impossible.

The subject of mules relates here.

142 posted on 08/17/2005 3:41:05 PM PDT by narby (There are Bloggers, and then there are Freepers.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Like when My cat got caught by a tom, her kittins were all kinds of different looking cats, thats micro-evolution I guess.


143 posted on 08/17/2005 3:43:23 PM PDT by CMOTB (Painfully Beautiful)
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To: PApatriot1
I'm a fleabit peanut monkey 
All my friends are junkies 
That's not really true 

I'm a cold Italian pizza 
I could use a lemon squeezer 
What you do? 

(The Rolling Stones - "Sweet Neo-Con")


144 posted on 08/17/2005 3:48:25 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: narby
I suspect that isolated populations may take a considerable period of time before breeding becomes completely impossible.

It's really up to the evolution critics to propose some mechanism that prevents two isolate populations from becoming reproductively isolated, as with horses and donkeys.

It is also part of the unfinished business of evolution to explain why some lines, like dogs, have more variability than others. It's an interesting problem.

145 posted on 08/17/2005 3:48:26 PM PDT by js1138 (Science has it all: the fun of being still, paying attention, writing down numbers...)
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To: narby
Oh. So we can go about changing your DNA all day long and you'll still be you?

If we could change DNA wouldn't we be able to cure certain genetically "caused" (predisposed) diseases immediately? That would be a pretty slick deal, like a "Search and Replace" function in word processing.

While we have made great advances in genetics and DNA, I doubt we will ever see the ability to change all the DNA molecules in animals or humans to the "improved" engineered version. Perhaps we may be able to change a DNA strand in a zygote and pass the improvements onto the next generation, but not beyond that.

146 posted on 08/17/2005 3:55:50 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: Auntie Dem

I think you are worng. There are already experimental treatments that use viruses to alter DNA in adults. They may not work yet, but the technique shows promise.


147 posted on 08/17/2005 4:02:17 PM PDT by js1138 (Science has it all: the fun of being still, paying attention, writing down numbers...)
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To: RobbyS

definition of bible Bible



A book.

The Book by way of eminence, -- that is, the book which is made up of the writings accepted by Christians as of divine origin and authority, whether such writings be in the original language, or translated; the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments; -- sometimes in a restricted sense, the Old Testament; as, King James's Bible; Douay Bible; Luther's Bible. Also, the book which is made up of writings similarly accepted by the Jews; as, a rabbinical Bible.

http://www.brainydictionary.com/words/bi/bible136536.html



148 posted on 08/17/2005 4:03:57 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: js1138
How did Biblical figures know the Earth was round and that ocean currents, sub-atomic particles, a jet stream and an infinite number of stars existed if they lived thousands of years before scientists would make those discoveries?

Round with four corners, eh? Last time I checked, a circle was not a sphere, and the sun didn't actually travel around the earth.

As for the infinite number of stars, Bruno was burned to death by Christians for saying something like that.

The ancients weren't just a bunch of rubes just hangin' around the cave. They were able to observe and deduce many things we assume only modern man is capable of observing. I've heard this arugument stated this way:

"My grandfather was credited with the discovery of pus, but I don't know how anyone could have missed it"

149 posted on 08/17/2005 4:08:29 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: Marguerite

A book that is the defining document of western civilization. The book of books in the West, which used to be called Christendom. Incidentally, as Barbara Tuchman pointed out, was warf and woof to the English settlers of New England, so much so that they adopted the ancient Hebrews as their ancestors rather than the ancient Angles and Saxons. Adair's History of the American Indians even sought to find the origin of the Indian languages in Hebrew. We know that many were convinced that they were remnants of the "Lost Tribes of Israel. " This is but one indication of how much the Bible was in the minds of the early Americans.


150 posted on 08/17/2005 4:14:03 PM PDT by RobbyS (chirho)
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To: js1138

Not evolution at work but human intervention, which is hardly accidental.


151 posted on 08/17/2005 4:16:22 PM PDT by RobbyS (chirho)
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To: lwg8tr
Chimp DNA is 97% like ours

I didn't bring up that point whatever. My second sentence is: "There were rare pre-historic viral infections in our common ancestor that have left remnants in the DNA of primates and humans."

Here's a great link from Icheumon.

The retroviral DNA segments in our DNA is proof that humans and primates are descended from a single common ancestor. Not just an ancestor species, but a common *individual* creature that got a virus one day and passed it down to all of us.

You can ignore the DNA evidence. The OJ jury did.

152 posted on 08/17/2005 4:17:26 PM PDT by narby (There are Bloggers, and then there are Freepers.)
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To: RobbyS
Not evolution at work but human intervention, which is hardly accidental.

Variation and selection are the same physical process, whether the selection is natural or otherwise.

153 posted on 08/17/2005 4:18:22 PM PDT by js1138 (Science has it all: the fun of being still, paying attention, writing down numbers...)
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To: RobbyS

Notwithstanding the phraseology in your post, it's still - a book.


154 posted on 08/17/2005 4:20:58 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: narby
You just saying it makes it so, eh.

Just visualize him as Igor crouched over a keyboard drooling and mumbling "I just need a brain" over and over.

155 posted on 08/17/2005 4:21:42 PM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: Buggman
narby: So what is the mechanism that limits your "micro" evolution from becoming "macro" evolution?

Buggman: I don't have to come up with a mechanism to explain an unproven process.

So you don't want to come up with the species limitation process that creationists believe exists, which limits micro evolution from becomming macro evolution? Fine. Science doesn't believe there is such a thing anyway.

That's why science accepts evolution.

156 posted on 08/17/2005 4:24:03 PM PDT by narby (There are Bloggers, and then there are Freepers.)
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To: Right Wing Professor
I'm a conservative of long standing; I was campus advisor to the College Republicans here in Nebraska for seven years; and I was a frequent reader of Human Events back in the nineties. It appears to have been transformed from a serious and thoughtful conservative magazine to a vehicle for the random and uneducated thoughts of unschooled religious zealots. That's too bad.

Nicely said. Now send one to Gilder's cretins at The American Spectator.

157 posted on 08/17/2005 4:27:33 PM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: PApatriot1

hmmm. The only person that uses "fact" in the article is the good ol' Flickinger. Do I detect a little dishonesty in the creos AGAIN!


158 posted on 08/17/2005 4:29:22 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Cyclopean Squid
it comes down in favor of teaching intelligent design alongside the theory of evolution. It's worth reading it all.

The Dummies Guide to ID (complete text) "Life is complicated and since we close our eyes to science something called ID must have created it."

159 posted on 08/17/2005 4:31:57 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: balrog666
Now send one to Gilder's cretins at The American Spectator.

Sheesh, guy. You want me to take them all on myself?

I used to subscribe to the Spectator. I stopped after they ran the first Tom Bethell anti-evolution column.

Check out Purrington's webpage, BTW. Lots of good stuff in the 'noodly appendage' style.

160 posted on 08/17/2005 4:43:17 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor (ID: the 'scientific hypothesis' that somebody did something to something or other sometime somehow.)
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