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Ancient Civilizations: Six Great Enigmas
Disklosure ^ | WILL HART & ROBERT BERRINGER

Posted on 08/16/2005 1:39:57 PM PDT by jb6

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1 posted on 08/16/2005 1:40:02 PM PDT by jb6
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

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2 posted on 08/16/2005 1:46:57 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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jb6-
I love this stuff! I have a library full of books on this subject. But for me, the more I've read, the less satisfied I am with my conclusions.
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3 posted on 08/16/2005 1:58:27 PM PDT by D_Idaho
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Petrie measured the passage and found an amazing accuracy of .020 of an inch over 150 feet and a mere .250 inch over 350 feet of its constructed and excavated length. We submit that this passage with its smooth surfaces, squared shape, and accurate angle could not have been tunnelled with primitive tools and methods.

As usual, one photo is enough to debunk these myth-builders....Smooth shaft? Not everywhere...

In other places along this passage, you can clearly see it was built up with blocks (you can even see the joints in the blocks) rather than drilled out of rock.

4 posted on 08/16/2005 2:03:38 PM PDT by konaice
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Simple, the physical engineering was easy while the social engineering - Western Civilisation - took a lot longer to get right.


5 posted on 08/16/2005 2:12:43 PM PDT by glorgau
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No scientist believes that because the stringent wolf pecking order and breeding rituals would never allow a mutant to survive, at least that is one strong argument against natural evolution.

What a stoopid attempt at an argument. If men took wolf pups and raised them as pets, there wouldn't be a wolf pack to attack it. DUH....

6 posted on 08/16/2005 2:14:48 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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The ancient world is indeed full of unexplained wonders. However, some of the items mentioned are simply incorrect.

Leveling a field to a fraction of an inch has no meaning when the particles that make up the field are larger than such a small fraction. This is hearsay, not fact.

The Russians domesticated foxes in the 1950's with the resultant animals being very much like dogs.

And, mica is no better shield from EMF than any other rock. Its use was probably associated with its level surface or highly reflective nature.

Point is, there are many mysteries, but let's not make more by misunderstanding or misrepresenting the facts.
7 posted on 08/16/2005 2:16:30 PM PDT by webboy45
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Actually the way wolves turned to dogs was proven in Russia by the domestication of foxes over about a 50 year period. They now sell domesticated foxes who have both dog/cat behavior traits.


8 posted on 08/16/2005 2:17:22 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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Sumeria – The Source Of Civilisation

Silly. I thought everyone knew that Dmansi is the source of civilization.

9 posted on 08/16/2005 2:17:47 PM PDT by MarMema
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"How do you explain the sudden emergence of a complex society when 99.99% of the rest of humanity were living primitively?"

Isn't Egyptian hieroglyphics anomalous as well. I have read that they appear suddenly with out any intermediate forms.
10 posted on 08/16/2005 2:19:15 PM PDT by TalBlack
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Interesting article but what does "We stand today at an unprecedented turning point in human history" mean? And what is this unprecented turning point?


11 posted on 08/16/2005 2:21:27 PM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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I lay it all down to beer and wine. Think about it, wine would have formed natuarlly, so the first group comes alone finds it gets drunk, figures out that it grows in this area and you need to help it grow and from there on civilization explodes....all so that we can now get tanked at any time.


12 posted on 08/16/2005 2:21:30 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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One other thing. a straight line is easy to make with a beam of light. And a simple beam of light can be made from the reflection of a mirror. So it's not all the big a deal that the walls were straight.


13 posted on 08/16/2005 2:21:37 PM PDT by webboy45
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two versions of ancient history

Neither of these is historical. They are interesting in themselves, but the break with modern society is complete.

14 posted on 08/16/2005 2:25:46 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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This really piqued my interest a few years back...

http://www.crystalinks.com/ancientaircraft.html

Supposedly it was debunked as natural erosion of the original carvings...but still...it's eerie.


15 posted on 08/16/2005 2:26:17 PM PDT by Dr Stormfist
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I had an enigma once, really cleaned me out...


16 posted on 08/16/2005 2:27:28 PM PDT by NormB (Yes, but watch your cookies!!)
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"One other thing. a straight line is easy to make with a beam of light. And a simple beam of light can be made from the reflection of a mirror. So it's not all the big a deal that the walls were straight."

My back yard wood deck, built by me (another amazing feat of civil engineering which will be studied for generations—or maybe not), I found a miraculous method for marking a straight line: tightly strung string! Yes, I do not mean to brag, but I was (am) centuries ahead of my time.


17 posted on 08/16/2005 2:29:53 PM PDT by Stat-boy
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18 posted on 08/16/2005 2:32:20 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Conservatives are from Earth. Liberals are from Uranus.(c))
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Since indoor plumbing did not arrive in modern societies to any extent until the 20th century

Yet another topic in the article way off the truth.

Traces of primitive drains and cess pits date back as far as 6000 B.C. Some of the earliest findings come from excavations in the Indus Valley of what is now Pakistan, where buildings from the ancient cities of Mohenjo-Daro and Harappa were found with latrines and drains beneath the floor.

Similar structures have been identified from about the same time some 1500 miles away in ancient Mesopotamia, often referred to as the cradle of western civilization. Earthenware pipe was made by joining bottomless ceramic pots end to end, and sealing them with bitumen, an early tar-like substance. Cess pits were similar in design to a modern septic tank. Deep shafts were dug in the earth, and lined with loosely packed gravel and broken pottery. Solid waste gathered in the pit, while urine was allowed to seep through to the earth.

The earliest identifiable flushing toilets have been found in the ruins of the palace of King Minos on the island of Crete, circa 1500 B.C. Rain water or water from cisterns traveled though conduits built into the wall to flush away the waste from a master bathroom presumably belonging to the monarch, as well as several other toilets located within palace walls.

Ruins of homes in ancient Egypt display small private, detached rooms presumably used as privies. Waste apparently was carried away by water running through man-made channels from nearby rivers.

Once they had mastered the first priority of waste elimination, early plumbing engineers turned their attention to supplying convenient fresh water for drinking and bathing. The earliest aqueducts seem to have sprung from lessons learned in irrigation and canal building. The ancient Egyptians grew crops with water imported from the Nile River. Mesopotamian engineers, almost from the beginning of their remarkable 26-century civilization, built and maintained canals for both irrigation and to control regular flooding of the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers.

For pure water, the Egyptians depended on wells. The famous “Well of Joseph” near the Pyramids of Gizeh required workers to dig through 300 feet of solid rock. As in most primitive societies, such amazing feats were made possible by a virtually inexhaustible supply of slave labor.

In Mesopotamia, the renowned “Hanging Gardens” of Babylon was an engineering feat so remarkable that the ancient Greeks deemed it one of the “Seven Wonders of the World.” Trees and plants grew atop terraced walls and platforms that stretched as high as 350 feet in the desert climate. Water was believed raised from the river by a series of “shatufs,” or clever water wheels that revolved by the force of current. Buckets on a wheel were filled and set in motion by the stream. As a bucket got to the top of its spin, water fell out into a trough, which dispersed it where needed.

19 posted on 08/16/2005 2:34:51 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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20 posted on 08/16/2005 2:37:31 PM PDT by patriot_wes (papal infallibility - a proud tradition since 1869)
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