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Victims may have died before crash( Passengers frozen solid! )
CNN ^ | 08/15/2005 | CNN

Posted on 08/15/2005 8:47:22 AM PDT by devane617

ATHENS, Greece (CNN) -- Investigators were working to determine why a Cypriot plane apparently suffered a catastrophic loss of cabin pressure and slammed into a Greek mountain -- possibly with all 121 people on board already dead. All but two of the bodies have been recovered, a Greek government spokesman said Monday, and officials hope autopsies and cockpit recorders will hold clues to Sunday's crash of Helios Airways Flight 522. The autopsies were ordered to determine if the 115 passengers and six crew were already dead or oxygen-starved before the crash, the spokesman said. A Greek Defense Ministry source with access to the investigation told Reuters that most of the bodies recovered were "frozen solid."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: air; aircraft; airplane; boeing737; heliosairways; terror; terrorist; travel
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To: devane617

This article is poorly written. Early on it says that a man was arrested who claimed to have received a text message saying, "Cousin, we're freezing," and the authorities believe he was lying, and later in the article it states as fact that a man received a text message saying, "Cousin, we're freezing."


221 posted on 08/15/2005 4:45:29 PM PDT by alnick
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To: Jonx6

neat site.


222 posted on 08/15/2005 4:45:56 PM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER (Conceal Carry)
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To: Steve_Seattle
I agree. Even if the bodies were frozen at some point, I think they'd unfreeze in a hurry when the plane crashed and exploded.

Have you ever tried to defrost a large piece of meat? Like a turkey?
It takes a long, long time.

223 posted on 08/15/2005 4:49:14 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: devane617

Hmmm....foil hat is now in place.


224 posted on 08/15/2005 4:52:10 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: hombre_sincero
Just another isolated incident.
225 posted on 08/15/2005 4:57:02 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: mewzilla

Mountains....


226 posted on 08/15/2005 4:59:18 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: kjam22

Thank you Mr. Burr.


227 posted on 08/15/2005 5:00:18 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: CHICAGOFARMER

Still not enough to freeze a human solid in an hour.


228 posted on 08/15/2005 5:02:30 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

I agree.

the problem is the state "frozen solid", is not verified.

The plane crashed burned. What do we have frozen hot pop tarts??

HA
HA


229 posted on 08/15/2005 6:02:32 PM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER (Conceal Carry)
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To: devane617
"Unless of course the pilot depressurized the plane for a reason. I assume that can be done in a manual way by the pilot."

Hmm nice theory, that would fit, the plane fills with toxic fumes from the AC, the pilot attempts to vent the gasses by depressurizing the plane.

230 posted on 08/16/2005 12:49:43 AM PDT by Kelly_2000
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1. 0900 [0700GMT]: Helios Airways Flight ZU522 leaves Larnaca bound for Prague via Athens
2. 0920 approx: Plane reaches cruising altitude of 35,000ft
3. 0937: Plane enters Greek airspace
4. 1007: Air traffic control unable to contact aircraft
5. 1030: Greek ATC issues "Renegade alert"
6. 1055: F16 fighter aircraft scramble
7. 1120: F16s intercept aircraft; pilots observed slumped over controls
8. 1205: Aircraft crashes near Grammatiko, 40km north of Athens
231 posted on 08/16/2005 1:53:18 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: alnick; mewzilla; Boundless; KarlInOhio
.....This article is poorly written. Early on it says that a man was arrested who claimed to have received a text message saying, "Cousin, we're freezing," and the authorities believe he was lying, and later in the article it states as fact that a man received a text message saying, "Cousin, we're freezing." .....

?...How did the 'man on the ground'....know....'something'.....going on at 30,000 feet?

hmmmmmmm........

232 posted on 08/16/2005 4:18:23 AM PDT by maestro
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To: devane617
Update Aug 16, 2005

ATHENS, Greece (AP) - Officials on Tuesday said they had found only the exterior container of the cockpit voice recorder from a Cypriot airliner crash that killed 121 people, hampering investigative efforts into the accident's cause.

233 posted on 08/16/2005 4:54:29 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER

Partially correct... As was explained later. Acclimation is the key. A gradual loss of Oxygen is tolerable to the body. A sudden decrease of Oxygen will cause you to pass out. Hence the struggle with atheletes competing in Boulder, CO when being used to competing in lower altitudes.


234 posted on 08/16/2005 5:00:06 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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