Victims may have died before crash( Passengers frozen solid! )

CNN ^ | 08/15/2005 | CNN

[devane617]

ATHENS, Greece (CNN) -- Investigators were working to determine why a Cypriot plane apparently suffered a catastrophic loss of cabin pressure and slammed into a Greek mountain -- possibly with all 121 people on board already dead. All but two of the bodies have been recovered, a Greek government spokesman said Monday, and officials hope autopsies and cockpit recorders will hold clues to Sunday's crash of Helios Airways Flight 522. The autopsies were ordered to determine if the 115 passengers and six crew were already dead or oxygen-starved before the crash, the spokesman said. A Greek Defense Ministry source with access to the investigation told Reuters that most of the bodies recovered were "frozen solid."

[alnick]

This article is poorly written. Early on it says that a man was arrested who claimed to have received a text message saying, "Cousin, we're freezing," and the authorities believe he was lying, and later in the article it states as fact that a man received a text message saying, "Cousin, we're freezing."

[CHICAGOFARMER]

neat site.

[Jorge]

I agree. Even if the bodies were frozen at some point, I think they'd unfreeze in a hurry when the plane crashed and exploded.

Have you ever tried to defrost a large piece of meat? Like a turkey?
It takes a long, long time.

[gathersnomoss]

Hmmm....foil hat is now in place.

[gathersnomoss]

Just another isolated incident.

[gathersnomoss]

Mountains....

[gathersnomoss]

Thank you Mr. Burr.

[pabianice]

Still not enough to freeze a human solid in an hour.

[CHICAGOFARMER]

I agree.

the problem is the state "frozen solid", is not verified.

The plane crashed burned. What do we have frozen hot pop tarts??

HA
HA

[Kelly_2000]

"Unless of course the pilot depressurized the plane for a reason. I assume that can be done in a manual way by the pilot."

Hmm nice theory, that would fit, the plane fills with toxic fumes from the AC, the pilot attempts to vent the gasses by depressurizing the plane.

[stlnative]

1. 0900 [0700GMT]: Helios Airways Flight ZU522 leaves Larnaca bound for Prague via Athens
2. 0920 approx: Plane reaches cruising altitude of 35,000ft
3. 0937: Plane enters Greek airspace
4. 1007: Air traffic control unable to contact aircraft
5. 1030: Greek ATC issues "Renegade alert"
6. 1055: F16 fighter aircraft scramble
7. 1120: F16s intercept aircraft; pilots observed slumped over controls
8. 1205: Aircraft crashes near Grammatiko, 40km north of Athens

[maestro]

.....This article is poorly written. Early on it says that a man was arrested who claimed to have received a text message saying, "Cousin, we're freezing," and the authorities believe he was lying, and later in the article it states as fact that a man received a text message saying, "Cousin, we're freezing." .....

?...How did the 'man on the ground'....know....'something'.....going on at 30,000 feet?

hmmmmmmm........

[NautiNurse]

Update Aug 16, 2005

ATHENS, Greece (AP) - Officials on Tuesday said they had found only the exterior container of the cockpit voice recorder from a Cypriot airliner crash that killed 121 people, hampering investigative efforts into the accident's cause.

[Zavien Doombringer]

Partially correct... As was explained later. Acclimation is the key. A gradual loss of Oxygen is tolerable to the body. A sudden decrease of Oxygen will cause you to pass out. Hence the struggle with atheletes competing in Boulder, CO when being used to competing in lower altitudes.