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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 14
Various News Outlets | 8/12/05

Posted on 08/12/2005 10:38:31 AM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: aruba; arubancorruption; beth; bethandjug; boringstory; boycottaruba; carloscharlies; courageousmom; daviejoneslocker; deepak; deepkrap; disappear; drugcartel; enoughwiththis; everyoneschild; fbi; generalissimofranco; ghb; greta; investigation; joran; jug; kalpoes; kalpooeys; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway
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To: monkeywrench

Well, right . . . but it is kinda interesting . . .


81 posted on 08/12/2005 3:35:27 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: theophilusscribe

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82 posted on 08/12/2005 3:47:16 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: imaketypos

I haven't found a definitive Miami article to back-up the equipment claim; but I can't imagine a reason for the Texas EquuSearch team to make-up such a story.


83 posted on 08/12/2005 4:01:20 PM PDT by all4one (All Muslims can be considered "moderate", until they decide to kill as many infidels as possible)
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To: maggief

More scubajap:
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/08/natalee_hollowa_26.html#comments
(some redaction)
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. . .By the way, had a chat with Deepak yesterday, he looked me right in the eye the entire time.
No, I didn't ask him if he did it, that would have been stupid. but I spoke to all the people who know and work around him and the neighboring shops, and it was quite a surprise. And that is all I have to say.

I really doubt they will find anything shady in their past, because to get a permit to live and work in Aruba, one must have a record of good conduct from the police of the home country and then the local authorities check it out.

Posted by: scubajap | August 12, 2005 03:05 PM

. . . NC greenbean-the others who post here will tell you I have pretty well proven my bone fides as being a person that lives in Aruba and works her as a reporter. It isn't so hard to talk to Deepak, just went to the internet cafe and talk to him. I just didn't take the media with me.
No big deal.
I just really wanted to see what he was like.

Posted by: scubajap | August 12, 2005 04:05 PM


What is your opinion regarding Deepak? Think he knows anything helpful?

I have been posting her for awhile, and most will tell you I don't express opinions about what happended that night because there are just too many unsubstantiated rumors, not only on this site, but circulating in Aruba as well, and I don't trust what most people tell me here,in Aruba either, because I know they can't be privy to that confidential information, and I wasn't in on the interregations, so I prefer to base my statements on FACTS-NOT RUMORS-FACTS

When I first went in I just asked to use a computer for awhile, Deepak was very polite, accommodating, and when I was having some trouble understanding their system (I never use internet cafes, I have my own computer) he was extremely helpful. He is kind of diminutive guy, shorter than me I think, and I am not tall. and he was very straightforward when we talked. He did not discuss what happened that night, and I think he has been told not to, and also , why should he really trust me, I am an american, possibly U.S. media, but we seemed to bridge that gap finally, and he was a bit chatty, but not about that night, and I would never ask.
All the people that know him around where he works and in the other shops in the mall really like him, he has always been a good neighbor; a polite and helpful young man. One lady, an Arubaian that has known him since he has lived on the island was quite adamant in her disbelief that he could ever do such a thing.

Interesting no?

BTW-that cafe was very, very busy when I was there, when Beth took up 90 minutes of his time, it must have been a real problem to doing business. BTW again, his boss is a woman.

Posted by: scubajap | August 12, 2005 05:00 PM


Just a quick aside, do you think that Joran's suddenly accusing Deepak is just to get himself from down under? why in the world would he have protected him before? A tad suspect I think.

People may be friends, but I don't think anyone would take the rap for someone in that situation for even a day. I think he would have made that statement immediately upon being arrested, not days later.

Posted by: scubajap | August 12, 2005 05:33 PM


So you are the "lone" Aruban that thinks Natalee in dead? I hear from everyone in Aruba that they believe she is alive, yet somewhere else

I was leaning toward dead also, after the first two weeks, but certainly not on the island.
Now I have heard some things that have caused me to keep an open mind.
I have just been informed by my son that someone who became very good friends with the Twittys was told by Jugs that they (the Twittys) believe Natalee is dead. Now they would just like her body back. I know who my son is talking about, and I think what he is telling me is true.

Posted by: scubajap | August 12, 2005 05:55 PM


84 posted on 08/12/2005 4:07:16 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: maggief

More Melody:
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/08/natalee_hollowa_26.html#comments

watchingclosely- thank you lots ... i want to know the truth myself, eventhough i believe in joran i really would want to talk to him about it. but i don't know if i'd be allowed to visit. and if i would get privacy to talk with him without anyone else standing around.

Posted by: Melody | August 12, 2005 03:02 PM


chinbeard - he was with his parents the way most teens are, had little arguments about not coming home on time ( like me all the time , and every other teen i know ) but he was a big sweetheart, sometimes he'd run to his mom and hug her super tight, and he'd play tennis with his dad for fun, Mr. van der sloot wasn't as good of a tennis player like joran, but it was their time together.

Posted by: Melody | August 12, 2005 03:10 PM


jaime does not look like lorenzo

Posted by: Melody | August 12, 2005 03:37 PM


chinbeard - it's actually very true :S ... if you go to carlos and charlies you'd see that 90% of the people who look and act drunk are american tourists, girls here drink, but moderated, we all have fun dancing with only tipsyness. maybe you can't blame them, here the drinking age is 18, so 18/19/20 year old girls make the best out of their chance to drink.
they don't have the best reputation over here at all.
and since they dn't live here i guess they don't care how they appear at all, they go crazy.

Posted by: Melody | August 12, 2005 03:48 PM


shocked and chinbeard - the most teens who do drugs do marijuana, i know a a handful myself, personally i find it an ok thing, it's almost like cigarettes i guess. and a small bunch, mostly ravers/punkers/rockers do xtc , but i'm so glad you asked chinbeard. i haven't seen it with my own eyes, but i've heard all around for as long as i can remember that tourists come up to beachboys to ask for drugs. even ben afleck asked a friend of someone i know to provide him with cocaine. and well beachboys get alot of money from tourists to provide them with drugs...!

Posted by: Melody | August 12, 2005 03:56 PM


by beachboys i meant young guys who work at the beach, the work at the watersports tents and there are many. one of my best friends is a beach boy. no club, no gang thing.

Posted by: Melody | August 12, 2005 04:02 PM


Melody, if you wanted to hide a treasure chest full of gold coins from everyone in Aruba, where would you go to hide it?

chinbear- i know EXACTLY where lolz, this well at the far end of the island, it's very deep, very big and at the bottom it leads to a tunnel, it's from a long time ago from the refinary i guess. but would you believe me if i say i learned about it searching with equusearch? most people don't even know those few wells there exist. so equusearch truly did search every inch.

Posted by: Melody | August 12, 2005 04:08 PM


DAVE - fact : 70% of the prisoners are not arubians

by no crime we mean kidnappings and murders

Posted by: Melody | August 12, 2005 04:10 PM


85 posted on 08/12/2005 4:15:01 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: Canadian Outrage

Hi CO!
New thread #14


86 posted on 08/12/2005 4:15:26 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: All
SM

Molly12
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=106208&highlight=#106208
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:07 pm

wow Art Wood said on Rita Cosby that all his sources have led him to believe she was buried at the lighthouse beach.

He was out there searching around when he found the belt, buried.

The dogs are searching in that area tonight.

87 posted on 08/12/2005 4:20:03 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: theophilusscribe

Who is art wood working for? Jossy?


88 posted on 08/12/2005 4:20:58 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: kcat

You are welcome. A little repetitive, but worth a persual for the little details that I haven't seen elsewhere.


89 posted on 08/12/2005 4:21:15 PM PDT by all4one (All Muslims can be considered "moderate", until they decide to kill as many infidels as possible)
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bttt


90 posted on 08/12/2005 4:22:01 PM PDT by Dark Skies (The storm is coming!)
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To: monkeywrench

I think he's the PI working with TJ Ward for the Twitty/Holloway family. He's the ex FBI guy.


91 posted on 08/12/2005 4:25:48 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: TexKat
"Beth states that Deepak and the rest were confident on the 1st night that they were going to get away with their lies."

The is the general sense that I have had about Satish, Deepak and Joran from the beginning. They all seem to have that "Ted Kennedy/Kennedy family" sense of being above the law.

92 posted on 08/12/2005 4:26:30 PM PDT by all4one (All Muslims can be considered "moderate", until they decide to kill as many infidels as possible)
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To: theophilusscribe

Her seething disdain for the US is pretty obvious.


93 posted on 08/12/2005 4:26:49 PM PDT by b9 (truth is simple and deep ~ evil, complex and shallow)
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To: theophilusscribe
DAVE - fact : 70% of the prisoners are not arubians black security guards

by no crime we mean kidnappings and murders we don't call it kidnappings and murders, instead they're missing persons and suicides

Fixed it!
94 posted on 08/12/2005 4:27:42 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: doodlelady

I think it is pretty interesting the way Melody and scubajap are on defending Joran and Deepak, respectively. Plants? Probably.


95 posted on 08/12/2005 4:28:53 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: monkeywrench

Th..th..thanks, MW. You, you, made me feel better. SNIFF!!


96 posted on 08/12/2005 4:29:27 PM PDT by Malichi (!)
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To: maggief

Priceless! And spot on!
LOL!


97 posted on 08/12/2005 4:31:37 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: theophilusscribe

Do you think it'll work?


98 posted on 08/12/2005 4:32:23 PM PDT by b9 (truth is simple and deep ~ evil, complex and shallow)
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To: theophilusscribe

Isn't Ruben an "acquaintance" or friend of Joran's?


99 posted on 08/12/2005 4:32:36 PM PDT by gg188
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To: doodlelady

I hope not!


100 posted on 08/12/2005 4:34:39 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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