Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 14

Various News Outlets | 8/12/05

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

"I wonder if any one has ever thought, as to where CC's loyalty and obligations belong?"

I have thought long and hard about Charles Croes.....one of the things that struck me the most was the manner and extent to which he answered Greta's questions during her interview of him......even though her interview was heavily edited (and the transcript even further), I noticed that after the initial chit-chat, his persona dramatically changed, and his responses looked like something you would expect from a professional witness in a Court proceeding.....much like Dr Baden in the OJ trial.....and too many open-ended answers, too. I sincerely hope that Greta has provided the FBI with all of the tape, including the out-takes that were not aired at all.

[cajungirl]

The Divine one has powerful connections I am betting.

Did anyone get the story of the girl who came forward sayng Joran threatened her with a knife. I didn't get it and wanta know the details.

[imaketypos]

sunmoonstars friday august 12

H&C Fri night

Alan: Did I hear a story that you had contact with the father of the suspect? He drove by?

I was searching some roadside, crossing the road and had direct eye contact with him...PVDS

I think it is kinda obvious by the way I am dressed, he knew who I was

Was it the same area the belt was found?

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

"The Divine one has powerful connections I am betting."

I am guilty of liking Aunt Linda a lot, LOL.

end of confession.

[alice_in_bubbaland]

Male 77....He can't be 77 years old??? LOL I guess he just doesn't want to devulge (sp?) his age.

[maggief]

I wonder if any one has ever thought, as to where CC's loyalty and obligations belong?

A couple things have bugged me about CC from day one. How and WHY did he "instinctively" divert from the HI? Were his conversations at the vdS home in Dutch or English?

C. CROES: After that, we spoke a while. And then we left that location with the intention of going to the Holiday Inn to continue meeting. On the way there, a young man and I were sitting in my car. And on the way there, instinctively, I wanted to go to drive off, pull over to the cabana area, just to look to see if perhaps she was there.

VAN SUSTEREN: Then where did you go?

C. CROES: Then we continued on track over to the Holiday Inn. And we were supposed to turn over to go into the Holiday Inn. And I had made a decision not to and went straight ahead. And going straight ahead, I made another decision to go to the beach area.

VAN SUSTEREN: What happened when you got there?

C. CROES: When I got there, there were three cars there. One was pulling out. It was a black car. There was another car parked there. And there was a car with kids in it. And I made the decision to talk to the kids. I got out of the car and, in talking to the kids, and describing what had happened, and explained to them why it is I was approaching them at this hour of the night and asking these questions.

(snip)

VAN SUSTEREN: Prior to that time when you went to the house, had you ever heard of the Van der Sloots or had you ever been to their house before?

C. CROES: Never.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161233,00.html

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

VAN SUSTEREN: Prior to that time when you went to the house, had you ever heard of the Van der Sloots or had you ever been to their house before?

C. CROES: Never.


That is very very difficult for me to believe also.

[alice_in_bubbaland]

"A PI has tracked down a man who said he helped bury the body late that night."

Yes, and this person is in a Psyc. Hospital, even though his claims seem to be in line with the landfill witness. Also the gardener has surfaced, where was he in protective custody? I think not.

IMO this info is a big development. The cover up is widespread and begins with PVDS & VanderStratten.

[Sunshine55]

The worst part about it is, he's probably not a psych patient at all...

[b9]

Can you imagine trying to raise a child in the quicksand of Aruban culture?

[maggief]

Compananzi
Monkey Junkey
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:04 am

Local Casino Dealer mysteriously skipped town to Holland...Interrogation also occurring in Holland in the Natalee case.

ORANJESTAD: Information has been circulating for a couple of days that a local Casino Dealer, male, who was working in the one of the Highrise Hotel Casino, right after the dissapearanc eof Natalee, skipped town and went to Holland.

After the Dealer went on his flight, rumors started that this young man also knows the 3 suspects, Joran van der Sloot and also know the bros. Deepak, and Satish Kalpoe.

This important detail, clearly has reached the ears of the local authorities, about the sudden trip of this Dealer, whose in Holland currently.

Sources indicate, and new information that Diario has made available points to the Dealer in question, whose trip went to Holland, was interrogated on more then 2 occasions by Aruban and Dutch authorities relating to the Natalee case.

It appears that the Dealer W confirms that he knows Joran, but we could not determine if during the interrogation if he brought forward that he knows the bros. Kapoes or not.

Up to now in this 2 months long Natalee case, information are still circulating that this Dealer in question might know something about this case

To prevent rumors, Diario has confirmation from the local authorities, whose during the interrogation also were mentioning the high tailing of this dealer., which they were able to get Dutch counterparts to interrogate this youth with Initials W, whilst he was in Holland. All details of this interrogation will be sent back to Aruba.
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http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1298

[Sunshine55]

Sergio Gomez?

[maggief]

Okay, where's that casino story/rumor about Natalee getting dealt two aces?

Later ...

[Sunshine55]

Ahhhh....nevermind, it's the Wever guy. But where's Sergio? I've heard conflicting stories about him: 1. that he's a reporter from Colombia and 2. that he was a casino dealer as well.

[maggief]

"Initials W" ... Lorenzo Wever.

[nuntukamen]

the bone found by the diver and the bones on island that are donkey or an old bone are all different bones

[alice_in_bubbaland]

"TITO: shango..He was considered a possible suspect.. "

shango...interesting! Could this be Lorenzo Van Rijn's nick name? Why would Tito use this word? Reading his Q&A thread he wasn't aware of the Shango Riddles.

[kcat]

Hey Alice
Just popped in to see what was going on from last night and saw your post. I think Tito was answering a poster who calls himself Shango something - not speaking to the Shango of the Shango posts.

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

"The cover up is widespread and begins with PVDS & VanderStratten."

van der Straaten is jorans godfather. Joran was born 18 years ago IN HOLLAND.....Godparents are named at/before birth. Joran has lived his entire life except the first 2 years in aruba. At some point along the way, van der Straaten was occupationally subordinate to PVDS in whatever PVDS official capacity was at the time.

Therefore, the close relationship and interworkings of the van der Straaten / van der Sloot go back at least 18 years and began in Holland......perhaps even to the point that VDS and van der Straaten have been close since they were teenagers themselves.

This relationship warrants very close scrutiny!

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

and by-the-way......does anyone know what Anita VDS maiden name is?

(my Godfather was my Uncle)