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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 14
Various News Outlets | 8/12/05

Posted on 08/12/2005 10:38:31 AM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: aruba; arubancorruption; beth; bethandjug; boringstory; boycottaruba; carloscharlies; courageousmom; daviejoneslocker; deepak; deepkrap; disappear; drugcartel; enoughwiththis; everyoneschild; fbi; generalissimofranco; ghb; greta; investigation; joran; jug; kalpoes; kalpooeys; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway
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To: Dolphy

Lordy, you said it!!


301 posted on 08/12/2005 9:40:08 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: TexKat
Mark at 251.

Texkat I'll have some free time tomorrow. I've got to figure out where you're headed with this. Very Interesting
302 posted on 08/12/2005 9:55:25 PM PDT by Malichi (!)
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To: Dolphy

after attempting to build one crime scenario after another that encompasses most of the clues and theories that have evolved so far, everything keeps coming back to the boys and the lies; they aren't just doing this as a high school prank...why the lies and then silence if they don't hold all the secrets of the mystery? what could have happened that brought such supposed great and dedicated humanitarians, to hear the island chatter on it, to have to cover up something they have done? after everything that's been out there it still is as simple as three horny guys, a cute girl, loads of booze and drugs on a hot summer night on a tropical island...still go for the accidental death and pop's entry as a sort of aruban mr. wolf (Harvey Keitel--Pulp Fiction)...and if they had a sport for stonewalling in the olympics aruba would race away with the gold medal and the silver and bronze, too


303 posted on 08/12/2005 10:29:58 PM PDT by nuntukamen ("where ever you go, there you are"...Buckaroo Banzai)
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To: juzcuz

Do you have a link to the shoe being found?


304 posted on 08/12/2005 10:39:08 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: nuntukamen

of course, its also possible that we have all awoke into an alternative universe today where a National Enquirer story is actually coming true


305 posted on 08/12/2005 10:40:43 PM PDT by nuntukamen ("where ever you go, there you are"...Buckaroo Banzai)
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To: nuntukamen

Nah. pleasant dreams, maybe tomorrow our prayers are answered keep the faith


306 posted on 08/12/2005 10:53:43 PM PDT by nuntukamen ("where ever you go, there you are"...Buckaroo Banzai)
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To: cajungirl
"They will find out who did this when someone talks. "

exactly......this whole farce has been controlled from day one......got to protect the rich little island boy.......

you know, if they hadn't taken Natalee, they would have grabbed someone else......

307 posted on 08/12/2005 11:02:19 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cajungirl; Howlin
I think Joran is crazy, crazier than sociopathic.

By American standards, he's beyond deeply disturbed.

But nobody on Aruba seems to give a gnat about American standards , in fact they hate being compared to America, hate the tourists and love/hate the limelight .

Why are they obstructing at every opportunity?
Because they can.

I don't think it's anything more orchestrated than a dull banality of disdain for all things US.

308 posted on 08/13/2005 12:41:01 AM PDT by b9 (Truth is simple and deep ~ error, complex and shallow)
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To: looney tune

bookmark


309 posted on 08/13/2005 5:04:11 AM PDT by looney tune
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To: All
luna
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1097&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:00 am

from sunmoonstars Friday 8-12-05
Catherine Crier: Friday

TJ: Gardener works for Jossy's nephew
He thinks Jossy is concerned about Natalee, wants to help her be found
Jossy is sincere
I think the gardener will be back. According to his nephews wife, he had asked for a couple of days off.
I believe he just went home for a couple of days

____________________

sunmoonstars wrote:
Rita Cosby Thurs With Art, PI

This belt has been out in the weather a long time
All my leads for seven weeks have led me to believe she died on the beach that night
We have leads that make us believe 3 boys along with accomplices, buried her at the lighthouse.
I have specific info as to a site where she might be buried
Last night, I went out there, dug around and found this belt
I remembered the photo with the belt
I believe it is a pretty good match, will leave it to LE to determine
Forensic evidence would be in the holes, buckle
I know the belt has deteriorated some, it has been out in the weather
The area where the belt was found is where we are concentrating
Searchers are there tonight
It is not a large area, they are specifically searching a small area I think to be significant

___________________

sunmoonstars friday august 12
H&C Fri night

Fred Golba (the new searcher): I have a history of finding others when others can't in heavily searched areas
I have done it several times
There is not as much chaos and confusion later in the game
Have proven several times in the states
Are you gettin cooperation from authorities in Aruba?
Fred: Most definitely, good rapport with LE
Alan: Did I hear a story that you had contact with the father of the suspect? He drove by?
I was searching some roadside, crossing the road and had direct eye contact with him...PVDS
I think it is kinda obvious by the way I am dressed, he knew who I was
Right now, my sponsorship is thru next Wed...think it could be extended
I am willing to stay as long as it takes
I have a lot of information, I listen to things. But I am sticking to my mission statement and that is grid elimination and not to get caught up in the rumors and a lot of the dramas....friday august 12

____________________

sunmoonstars friday august 12
NG Friday night

On Gardener: Current Affair says he was found, hopefully he will give testimony in court on Monday.
Jossy: He was keeping out of sight until the police found him. I understand sometime today.
They had a small fire at the landfill, had to stop searching till Monday
Beth:Other searchers are searching near the lighthouse, began last night...doing a great job...
On getting Joran to talk:
Current Affair reporter on getting Joran to talk:
Belt found near lighthouse, where one story puts the suspects
The latest on the story today is that they are trying a new strategy on Joran to get him to talk
They have tried everything to get him to talk according to sources
Cop told me on the island that he is either pyschotic, or he believes what he is saying.

310 posted on 08/13/2005 5:23:00 AM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: theophilusscribe
SM:

The Natalee Holloway Wall of Hope - Part 1
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1398
by Scared Monkeys

We will be posting pictures taken at the Natalee Holloway Wall of Hope , which is hosted at the Mountain Brook Community Church, throughout the weekend. Please click on the pictures to see them in full size. The full size of each is almost one megabyte, so if you are dial up they may take a while to download.

Natalee’s Wall

Main Wall

These pictures were taken by some of our discussion board members who go by the name of PairofDivers. Thank you very much for sending them in.

This entry was posted on Friday, August 12th, 2005 at 11:00 pm

311 posted on 08/13/2005 5:32:16 AM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: All
SM:

The Natalee Holloway Wall of Hope - Part 2
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1399
by Scared Monkeys

We will be posting pictures taken at the Natalee Holloway Wall of Hope , which is hosted at the Mountain Brook Community Church, throughout the weekend. Please click on the pictures to see them in full size. The full size of each is almost one megabyte, so if you are dial up they may take a while to download.

These two posts are close enough that if you get the full sized image you can read the comments easily that people have written.

Cross and Comments

Decorations

These pictures were taken by some of our discussion board members who go by the name of PairofDivers. Thank you very much for sending them in.

This entry was posted on Saturday, August 13th, 2005 at 7:10 am

312 posted on 08/13/2005 5:36:20 AM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: TexKat

TexKat,
I hope this perp receives the needle or the chair. Better yet, cuff him to include leg shackles then drop this perp in pen of wild hogs.

I get so tired of seeing these murderers put in prison for life when they have taken a life.

Fight Crime Shoot First,
NSNR


313 posted on 08/13/2005 5:50:21 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: hummingbird

Good Morning HB,
He is like the majority of the Arubans in this case, vested with a selective memory.

I do not trust any of them, to include the Prosecutor Janseen.

I have found many a time those who are instrumental in providing information(very very helpful) are linked to the crime. This can be as a perp, damage control and steer the investigation away from finding the real perps/truth.

The Right, The Wrong and The Truth,
NSNR-BP


314 posted on 08/13/2005 5:58:38 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Canadian Outrage

Could AVDS have known that Natalie was at her house that first day, and actually is an accessory too?


315 posted on 08/13/2005 6:05:57 AM PDT by upstatenyrepublican
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To: theophilusscribe

Hey T,
I would like to see a copy of the contracts from these girls, who rented the cell phones from CC.

If he is as adept in his oratory skills, articulation and knowledge, concerning many of the facts in this case. I believe he should have no problem producing those alleged cell phone contracts for verification purposes.

I wonder if any one has ever thought, as to where CC's loyalty and obligations belong?

The only dumb question is the one not asked,
NSNR-AL


316 posted on 08/13/2005 6:17:55 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: coconut47

I thought it was reported that it was a donkey bone.


317 posted on 08/13/2005 6:28:46 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland ("Consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies")
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Hey VNS_67-68,
I believe Bozo the clown would do a better job than Tito-Zito.

What is ironic, these little talking heads use the desperation of the Holloway's as a tool against them.

The Aruban authorites, media and others act like they care and want this case solved. Well, they only want it to go away from their tropical cess pool of murder, lies deciet and corruption.

I say, be careful of being embraced and cuddled by the warmth of a mysterious angel. For they may be a demon in disguise, who will take you life and soul.

The eight seal,
NSNR-BR


318 posted on 08/13/2005 6:31:36 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Canadian Outrage

She looks deeply unhappy.

Someone on SM who knows them posted that they were known as a sweet couple and werre nice people but Joran was the problem. I know most think when they see a kid like Joran that he had to come from a bad family, bad parents. But I have see it otherwise.

Paulus seems like a sleezball but maybe Anita isn't.


319 posted on 08/13/2005 6:45:46 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl
Paulus seems like a sleezball but maybe Anita isn't.

She's probably the one who sought the psychiatric help for herself and Joran. Even tho those records are sealed, at least she has the comfort of knowing SOMEone knows the truth about the horrors she puts up with.

320 posted on 08/13/2005 6:51:32 AM PDT by b9 (Truth is simple and deep ~ error, confusing and shallow)
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