Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 14

Various News Outlets | 8/12/05

[theophilusscribe]

IamTito
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1222&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=160
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:17 pm

Lorenzo Wever was sent to Holland soon after the event.. he was a casino person.. his father currently leads a political party on the island..

Charles Croes.. some of the girls had rented phones from him.. that much I know.. he confirmed sharing that story early on, on fox..

What evidence they have on Joran that they dont have on Kalpoes..
Jorans conflicting statements!! and they have more evidence they wont release.. but the conflicting statements were the criteria the court used to extend his detention for 60 days.. I saw the statement..

[maggief]

ROFL

[theophilusscribe]

It sure is, and Lorenzo Wever sounds connected . . .

Lorenzo Wever was sent to Holland soon after the event.. he was a casino person.. his father currently leads a political party on the island..

[cajungirl]

Damn, kicking cacti?

I think he ought to try to strangle porcupines. Or slap rattlesnakes around.

I think, and can't exactly pin down why, just disparate info and side remarks about Joran, that he is mentally ill. ANd while acting sociopathic, I think it is a worse illness. I am wondering if he has been psychotic.

[maggief]

Where would a Saudi prince stay in Aruba, anyway?

[hummingbird]

Thanks!

[theophilusscribe]

???

Isn't it the one Beth uses? Didn't Beth say that she had outfitted Nat's phone for international use?

Sorry, can't remember very well right now . . .

[maggief]

His preference may have been to 'wrestle' rattlesnakes, canjungirl. ;-D

[hummingbird]

Isn't this the first we've heard for sure that Natalee rented a phone while in Aruba? I've always considered it speculation that Beth or the other student got a call from Natalee saying I don't know these people, but now...

He does seem to be confirming that Natalee rented a phone in Aruba whereas before it seemed to only have been a possibility.

[cajungirl]

We need to start finding out who his father is, "the head of a political party" is interesting given the mob involvement. And goodle that sucker.

[kcat]

Don't y'all remember right after Beth got to Aruba she made a statement on t.v. TO NATALEE that she had set up her phone for international calling and she could call her phone. I don't know about Tito's statement that Natalee's phone would have worked in Aruba - her regular old phone from home, not her rented one from Charles Croes.

[cajungirl]

At a private rental home. Theere are some nice ones. Or at the Marriot.

[monkeywrench]

On SM, NativeLingo said that joran had been seeing a pediatric psychiatrist. She'd spoken with a 'good reliable source'. She asked the source about his bullying and the dog killing, and the source (I believe a receptionist), said that's the least of his problems. Mother in denial.

I wonder what meds he's on, or supposed to be on.

[cajungirl]

Maybe wrestle boas or anacondas. But kicking Cacti? My word, what a dunce.

[kcat]

oops, seems we had the same thought at the same time,

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

tito handles his imaginary stardom in such a witless transparent way with his dumb deadend answers that he reminds me of PVDS.....and there is probably a very good reason for that similarity.

Tito is a joke, and has no place in this matter, unless one wants to be impressed with how badly tito wants it to go away......other than that, tito is a complete zero, and I feel benevolent in calling him a zero.

[Rusty Roberts]

Hummingbird, I remember the same: he was not familiar with shango the other night or we both are in the same dream.

Separate, I can't stand Rita or Nancy, so was flipping channels, but on one of them there was a Jossy jr (don't know if it was a son, nephew, etc. but same last name so extrapolate) who could barely put two words together. It's amazing how this family runs a newspaper.

When you think about the police, the "justice" system, the media, the hotels, you have to wonder how it works: does a piece of paper come under their door each am, "These are what you talk about today, forget about yesterday...", "You know nothing about....", "You want...", etc.

Maybe there is something in the water after all, only those with certain inoculations are able to receive transmissions. I'm semi joking. These people are starting to freak me out.

There is something about the sly smile on the 4 key players faces even while arrested that is not normal.

[cajungirl]

I remember that. And his attraction to a very young girl. ANd his weird thing with his mother. And brutality to brother. All sounds sociopathic but some other serious illnesses strike me,,pervasive dev disorders, Childhood Schizophrenia.

[hummingbird]

Didn't Beth say that she had outfitted Nat's phone for international use?

I recall a post to that effect. Why would Natalee rent a phone - unless she didn't know the phone had been "outfitted" by Beth, etc.

[cajungirl]

I have a vague memory of nat's phone not being fixed to use on Aruba. I think Beth said her phone was so Beth could call her. Confusing.