Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

This thread has been locked, it will not receive new replies.
Locked on 08/19/2005 10:42:29 AM PDT by Lead Moderator, reason:

Thread 15: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1466595/posts



Skip to comments.

Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 14
Various News Outlets | 8/12/05

Posted on 08/12/2005 10:38:31 AM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: aruba; arubancorruption; beth; bethandjug; boringstory; boycottaruba; carloscharlies; courageousmom; daviejoneslocker; deepak; deepkrap; disappear; drugcartel; enoughwiththis; everyoneschild; fbi; generalissimofranco; ghb; greta; investigation; joran; jug; kalpoes; kalpooeys; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 141-160161-180181-200 ... 2,021-2,025 next last
To: cajungirl
"Yeah,Tito didn't noticed the beheaded man what with everything being so crime free on Aruba. Interesting."

Notice, he was evasive on everything he wasn't given talking points on.

161 posted on 08/12/2005 5:54:30 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 153 | View Replies]

To: cajungirl
I knew she had a meal with someone but didn't know who and it dropped from sight.

This is a new one!

I remember this, cajungirl. Supposedly she had a lunch or two with someone (male) not too long after arriving in Aruba, but I don't think it was ever someone identified. Later the lunch(es) came up again, when the idea of modeling (and porn) came up; it was speculated that it was a faux interview to gauge Natalee's "interest."
162 posted on 08/12/2005 5:55:46 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 151 | View Replies]

To: TexKat

Shark food.


163 posted on 08/12/2005 5:56:24 PM PDT by IonInsights
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: theophilusscribe

Kicking cactus?

LOL, ... on that I best take a short break.


164 posted on 08/12/2005 5:56:48 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 159 | View Replies]

IamTito
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1222&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=120
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:47 pm


In your mind, is Steve Croes involved, or just stupid? I don't understand his "volunteering" the Holiday Inn alibi....who put him up to that?
TITO:I hear shango.. Steve Croes told me he acted plain stupid.. overheard a conversation.. and was arrested.. lost his job... He was never involved.. the authorities firmly believe that..The ones further away from this case are now steve croes, micky John and Abraham Jones..


TITO:greg shary.. as far as AVDS behaviour.. she believes 200% in his son.. "He has his moments.. was in a fight once I know where he got in trouble.. but nothing a 17 year old wouldnt do".. I had this conversation with Anita and Paul, the morning after Joran was detained

, Tito why he [Van Der Straaten] is coming back?
TITO:kath.. he has a house here. in Aruba.. plans to live here for a very long time..


Is it true that the lawyers for the brothers are Jossy's nephews?
TITO:Mrs Red.. the lawyers of the Kalpoe brothers are NOT his nephew..
One is david Kock, and the other is Rudy Oomen. two well respected lawyers.. in fact... even Greta was impressed and told me on one of her rides (in my car.. cool!!!) that she was impressed and that David was a good lawyer, serious and that would she ever get in trouble, dont mind be represented by him!!


165 posted on 08/12/2005 5:58:04 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 159 | View Replies]

To: theophilusscribe
Is he saying Shango is LvR or did Shango say something about LvR? I thought he posted he didn't know anything about Shango...could have misread the post thought; arghhhh....very tired - sat up with sick doggie last night....
166 posted on 08/12/2005 6:00:23 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 155 | View Replies]

To: monkeywrench
It appears jossy and Jug know where the gardner is, but the police don't. Interesting.

I'm getting the feeling that the "regulars" in Aruba are very adept at dissembling.
167 posted on 08/12/2005 6:01:39 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 158 | View Replies]

IamTito
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=106437&bypass=106437#106437
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:58 pm


First - you rock.Second - Does LE believe that Deepak may be more involved than Satish, or does LE think they are both connected in the same way - whatever that happens to be?

TITO:KSHE.. a definate YES on your second statement..
on your first statement.. I believe that was a compliment.. and if so.. thanks..THe authorities definately believe Deepak was more involved than Satish.. but to what extend.. is not known.. he is friends with Joran.. been friends since carnival.. According to Jorans mom telling me.. problem is , she didnt say if it was this carnival or last years carnival...
vd Straten doesnt believe the brothers are guilty.. but Joran..


168 posted on 08/12/2005 6:02:37 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 165 | View Replies]

IamTito
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=106437&bypass=106437#106437
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:00 pm

Tito, Dave Holloway said the other day that Joran had admitted to sexual assault, do you know anymore details about this? Nothing graphic of course.
TITO:DT... Joran signed a statement on june 13 indicating that Deepak might have raped and then killed Natalee... but as far as him .. he confessed to his mother that they kissed.. and were together.. but no sexual assault..

tito..do you know if the excelsior has been forthcoming in sharing any casino security footage with ALE or FBI?
TITO:karen.. the answer is yes.. in fact .. I placed a call to Dompig a couple of weeks ago, acting on a tip of a person who I deem credible.. to look into the surveillance tape of the inside exit of the casino.. where she might have bumped into Natalee with fuzzy hear.. and a crooked shirt.. He told me he'd look into it..


tito..who do arubans consider the chief of polis? i know it may sound stupid, but you have different terminologies there.
TITO: Karen..the Chief of police is Ronny Bernadina..the Deputy chief of police is Gerold Dompig.. He is also the head of the police task force who cracks down on illegals..Jan vd Straten was police comissioner of district 2... Noord


169 posted on 08/12/2005 6:06:09 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 167 | View Replies]

To: doodlelady

Percy from the Green Mile?

I am howling! You know I wasn't talking about Joran. I was talking of the impropriety of a 19 y/o girl talking of her rough sex on the net for all to see.


170 posted on 08/12/2005 6:07:07 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 125 | View Replies]

To: theophilusscribe
Joran that is..At one time he would play domino at a golf course and suddenly start kicking cactus around.

No wonder he wears those thick boots.

171 posted on 08/12/2005 6:07:21 PM PDT by b9 (truth is simple and deep ~ evil, complex and shallow)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 159 | View Replies]

To: hummingbird

There is a poster named "I hear Shango"
Tito was shortening the name in his answers.


172 posted on 08/12/2005 6:07:28 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 166 | View Replies]

To: doodlelady

He's a "prickly" character, to be sure!


173 posted on 08/12/2005 6:08:23 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 171 | View Replies]

IamTito
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1222&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=140
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:05 pm


So where did Dave get the idea that Joran admitted to this while in prison? I guess what I'm saying is, do you think that the family knows of some things that Joran has admitted to that his family doesn't?
TITO: dt..joran has changed his story MANY times.. which is the MAIN reason the judges have kept him in jail soo long.. The family, DAVE, told me that on one of the visits at the police department.. he saw a thorn up statement..There were many statements, some signed some not.. the signed ones are official..


I don't think this has been asked yet, but... have you had any inside info concerning the 2 alleged cellphone calls to Beth and or the Twitty home in the early morning hours of May 29th? Related to this would be the knowledge that Charles Croes had... can you add anything to that part of the case?
SB..As for CHarles Croes.. he owns the fast phone rental cellular phone company at the airport.. many , including natalee and others have rented a phone from his place.. hence..his conection in possibly knowing the conversations..


174 posted on 08/12/2005 6:12:14 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 173 | View Replies]

To: maggief

Yep. Tito seems not so bright.

But hey, I would talk about the colombian necktie either if those guys were around.


175 posted on 08/12/2005 6:13:48 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 157 | View Replies]

To: theophilusscribe

Isn't this the first we've heard for sure that Natalee rented a phone while in Aruba? I've always considered it speculation that Beth or the other student got a call from Natalee saying I don't know these people, but now...


176 posted on 08/12/2005 6:15:28 PM PDT by kcat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 174 | View Replies]

IamTito
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1222&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=140
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:09 pm

TITO:I am not dodging the questions.. on lorenzo.. just cant answer if I dont know the answer .. sorry


NATALEE rented a phone from Charles Croes?? We were told she didn't rent a phone, that she had her phone which could call the US but couldn't be used to call Aruban numbers.Charles told you she rented a phone? edited for Steve to Charles. Too many croes.
TITO:Not Steve Croes.. but CHARLES Croes has a phone rental company.. we were informed that Natalee had a rental.. Paul confirmed that she had a phone.. if the phone was hers, and it worked, it wouldve worked in Aruba too, thanks to ROAMING.. in fact.. Beths cellnumber is an alabama number and it works in Aruba.. we spoke the other day!!


177 posted on 08/12/2005 6:16:38 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 174 | View Replies]

To: maggief

A SAUDI PRINCE AT THE HOTEL at the same time.

Man, those Saudi Princes are known to be hideous when they are away from Saudi. Seems I remember reading about how they rape hotel maids, etc. There was an expose about them coming to DC and leaving a swath of sexual assault victims.

But would a Saudi Prince stay at the HI? It is not a really fine hotel.


178 posted on 08/12/2005 6:17:07 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 164 | View Replies]

To: kcat

Hmmm? I thought had been confirmed before, but you may be right . . .


179 posted on 08/12/2005 6:18:07 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 176 | View Replies]

To: theophilusscribe

So where are the phones? They weren't among the things Beth showed Greta. Couldn't they GPS the phones?


180 posted on 08/12/2005 6:18:53 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 177 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 141-160161-180181-200 ... 2,021-2,025 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson