Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 14

We need a deck of cards like they had for Iraq just so we can put faces to names/roles and keep everyone straight!

Beth would definitely be the Queen of Hearts.

Joran might be the Joker with the $$ signs...

141 posted on 08/12/2005 5:34:37 PM PDT by rolling_stone

142 posted on 08/12/2005 5:34:52 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')

To: theophilusscribe

143 posted on 08/12/2005 5:35:12 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")

California Lighthouse

144 posted on 08/12/2005 5:36:23 PM PDT by theophilusscribe

It is odd they are critical, I mean every drunken American is money in the bank for them.

Excellent point.

Is their cold disdain for all things US so ingrained that they'll chop off their noses to spite their two/faces?

145 posted on 08/12/2005 5:36:44 PM PDT by b9 (truth is simple and deep ~ evil, complex and shallow)

Tito doesn't know about the beheading/Columbian necktie? Ooooookay. SM: What resulted in investigation into beheading/Columbian necktie? Was anyone charged? TITO: NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT CASE

right off the hinky meter...

146 posted on 08/12/2005 5:37:46 PM PDT by Rusty Roberts (Aruba has a bad case of the VDS)

These are clinton style lefties in charge. Yes, they will burn the village to save it. These lefties in charge like chavez. They don't like our fighter jets there in aruba pointed at their commie friend.

147 posted on 08/12/2005 5:39:40 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

To: theophilusscribe

That was Lorenzo Van Rijn.

Son & father had the same name? And, who the heck is Lorenzo Weaver? LOL!

This reminds me of Max Arends and Max Arendz being two different people...may be a little off on the spellings but thought it was odd that two boys about the same age had such close names.

148 posted on 08/12/2005 5:40:39 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")

IamTito
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1222
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:52 pm Post subject: ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS

Tito - do you get the feeling this case will be solved before September 4th? Thanks!
TITO:kLAAS.. Honestly.. I dont know.. Fact is, that they have till the 4th of october to be ready.. Point is, they must plug a date in between september 4th and oktober 4th for the court case. If they fail, Joran walks by october 4th. September 4th is the prefinal chance where prosecution can extend the detention for another 30 days..

Tito, has there been update on the gardener witness? Did he show up for court? Are they still looking for him? What will happen when they find him? Edited to add something...Tito, what can you tell us about the people who have been questioned and released? I understand you cannot give us their names, but can you tell us why they were questioned or how they relate to the suspects or the case?
TITO:Nora.. gardener did not show up.. we knew that since yesterday.. is he on the island.. we dont know.. they might still be searching..

Tito- We have heard what the polis think happened to Natalee which was accidental death and disposal of the body. What are the opinions of the people of Aruba and is it a theory on the island as well that this could be something much bigger and that the some of ALE could possibly be in a coverup along with the 4 other suspects?
TITO:Hope.. The island is divided on the issue. Some think she's alive, others think shes dead.. others just want this thing to be over with

First off, with the gardner missing is there any beleif of any "witness tampering" or someone doing away with this known witness? Also, do you beleive the K-bros. and paulus will be re-arrested? If so, why?
TITO:Candy.. Theory..

What would you like to know from us?
TITO:Old Fart.. just fine.. create an easier way to answer your questions..

Do you think Natalee is on or off the island, and is she dead/alive in your opinion?
TITO:lemon.. some say off the island.. some say shes dead

Tito, last night you said that the police believe Natalee is dead and her body was disposed of in the water. I have seen no news reports of an ongoing police search for Natalee in the water. Are they searching there? Are they searching anywhere?
TITO:Yellow.. They Have

Do you know if the Aruban police have searched the internet cafe where Deepak works for clues?
TITO:Yorkie.. Yes

149 posted on 08/12/2005 5:41:27 PM PDT by theophilusscribe

150 posted on 08/12/2005 5:42:24 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")

To: theophilusscribe

I knew she had a meal with someone but didn't know who and it dropped from sight.

This is a new one!

151 posted on 08/12/2005 5:43:02 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)

To: Rusty Roberts

Like JvdS ex-gf says, "by no crime we mean kidnappings and murders."

:-/

152 posted on 08/12/2005 5:44:13 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')

Yeah,Tito didn't noticed the beheaded man what with everything being so crime free on Aruba. Interesting.

153 posted on 08/12/2005 5:44:51 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)

To: monkeywrench

That is Lorenzo van Rijn.

154 posted on 08/12/2005 5:45:52 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)

OOPS! Should have checked the date! Here are today's answers:

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IamTito
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1222&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=80
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:26 pm

Hello people.. I am back and will be for a little while before I leave for the Greta show.. hows everyone tonight

Do you have time now to tell us why Lorenzo Van Rijn was questioned around the same time as Joran, when LVR was not known to have been seen with Natalee?
TITO: shango..He was considered a possible suspect..

So Tito are you going to wear a purple shirt for us tonight to show us you know us?
TITO:kath.. yes!!!!

155 posted on 08/12/2005 5:46:52 PM PDT by theophilusscribe

To: monkeywrench

How hard do you think it will be to knock that out of the water? Can they have manipulated times and messages? I'm no techie.

I also think the messages or emails were manipulated. I am not a techie either...Deepak did work at an Internet cafe so he might have known...I imagine computer experts can do a lot..I have heard of professionals stripping all data from a hard drive, including that which has been erased...so it might be possible..I do know you can change the time on your computer and it will show on emails you send..but the received time seems intact..

156 posted on 08/12/2005 5:50:46 PM PDT by rolling_stone

Ace investigative news reporter, eh?

157 posted on 08/12/2005 5:51:19 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')

To: theophilusscribe

"TITO:Nora.. gardener did not show up.. we knew that since yesterday.. is he on the island.. we dont know.. they might still be searching.."

It appears jossy and Jug know where the gardner is, but the police don't. Interesting.

158 posted on 08/12/2005 5:51:27 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

IamTito
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1222&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=100
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:33 pm

I will be discussing the court case.. the gardener.. the police theory on the search.. he wouldnt say anything on the belt..

diva.. you can mail me at titoaruba@yahoo.com

Dompig says that when they get the gardener witness statements it will be very hard to keep them out of jail.
TITO: dt... dompig told me today, the search for the gardener is not over yet

Have you heard the rumor that a Saudi prince was staying at the Holiday Inn when Natalee was there and may have been at the casino with her? Is there any truth to this rumor?
TITO:nora.. heard the rumor.. but they are not banking on that..thanks for your kind words

If you don't mind me asking...do you think that most of these leads are just misleads to redirect the investigation so that Natalee will not be found and Joran will go free?Do you think that Joran is psychotic? or a Sociopath?what do you think about the behavior of PVDS and the lack of input on behalf of AVDS?
TITO: greg... he is know to be very agressive at times.. Joran that is..At one time he would play domino at a golf course and suddenly start kicking cactus around..As far as Lorenzo... dont have a picture

Tito, I had heard that Chief Van Der Stratten had one theory which involved someone other than the boys being at fault for Natalee's disappearence. The aunt Linda Allison discussed it on Greta briefly. Do you know anything about the details of this theory?
TITO:DT... van der straten believes that there was foul play and that natalee may not be alive anymore.. he will be back on the island next week.. towards the end
as far as the misleading theory.. hmmmm

159 posted on 08/12/2005 5:52:07 PM PDT by theophilusscribe

To: rolling_stone

Thanks. If it's found they tampered/made up the messages, that blows everything they have. I hope we have clever FBI people that can access this data.

160 posted on 08/12/2005 5:53:32 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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