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Is Ohio Turning Blue?
Human Events Online ^ | 08-12-05 | Gizzi, John

Posted on 08/12/2005 9:44:15 AM PDT by Theodore R.

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To: new yorker 77

I got my colors mixed up.


21 posted on 08/12/2005 10:09:10 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Koran 9:123 "Make war on the infidels who dwell around you.")
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To: Theodore R.

Is Ohio turning blue? Possibly. It definitely has become a battleground state, where it was almost a given for the "red" column before. Illinois should have been a salient warning as to what could happen. Not merely a surrender to RINOs, but to RINOs who did not believe in the integrity of the Republican party, RINOs that would jump ship and become Democrats in an eyeblink. All to punish something, I know not what.

Maybe some people would sooner not be reminded of their own conscience.


22 posted on 08/12/2005 10:10:37 AM PDT by alloysteel ("Master of the painfully obvious.....")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
By 2008 Florida will be solidly blue as New York tax policies drive more retirees to declare their summer homes to be their primary residences.

That's what people said about Florida prior to 2004 too. It didn't happen, and Bush took Florida by well over 300,000 votes. Florida is safe ground, because the Florida GOP, unlike the Ohio GOP, actually does its job well.

I'm sure plenty of people from the cesspool known as New York will come to Florida, but I don't think they'll be able to override the natives, who happen to like their non-socialist state the way it is. If New Yorkers try to turn Florida into another New York, there will be a backlash.

23 posted on 08/12/2005 10:10:49 AM PDT by SunnyD1182
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To: Theodore R.
In the wake of a Democratic candidate’s narrow loss in the August 2 special election in Ohio’s most Republican U.S. House district, pundits have begun pondering whether the Buckeye State is turning blue.

If that's the case then why did the Democrats run ads connecting their candidate so closely to Bush - even using clips of speeches?

24 posted on 08/12/2005 10:11:02 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Theodore R.

"Is Ohio Turning Blue?"

It will, if it holds its breath long enough.


25 posted on 08/12/2005 10:12:11 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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To: Theodore R.
"Is Ohio Turning Blue?" No, just the Governor... and he probably always has been.
26 posted on 08/12/2005 10:18:18 AM PDT by FearNoMan
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To: Theodore R.

I'm not buying it. The dems ran a "Republican Light" candidate, spent a ton of resources and, and. . . . .LOST!!! It is just amazing to me that the dems have to try and characterize a loss as a victory to make themselves feel good. From what I have read 52-48% in a special election is a wide margin given the low turnout associated with such elections. Honestly, this strikes me as pure and simple MSM wishful thinking. I will put forth this proposition, if the margin was 60-40% the MSM STILL would have characterized it as being "closer" than it should have been.

The story to the MSM is that 2006 will be like 1994. The MSM just can't get over the fact that the stories they are reporting just aren't matching reality.

As for Ohio turning from dem to Republican on a local level, perhaps that is what is needed for the Ohio GOP to wake up and kick out the RINO's. But, that doesn't mean Ohio is going Red in National Politics.


27 posted on 08/12/2005 10:18:51 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: KarlInOhio

Its a special election. Margins are usually closer when the turnout is lower. Don't buy the MSM BS.


28 posted on 08/12/2005 10:21:04 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: KarlInOhio
Ha! Rose Kennedy was listed as a Florida resident when she died to avoid the Massachusetts death tax

Meanwhile, Ted is demanding everyone else pay. Don't you DARE touch his millions, though! You'll be looking at an Arkansaside-type Chappaquiddick!

29 posted on 08/12/2005 10:21:16 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: SunnyD1182

Not to mention the fact that mid-westerners also migrate to Fla in HUGE numbers. 95 comes down the East Coast from NY, but 75 comes down the West Coast from the mid-west. My parents have retired to the West Coast and I can assure you, it is not trending blue.


30 posted on 08/12/2005 10:23:40 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: SunnyD1182
I'm sure plenty of people from the cesspool known as New York will come to Florida, but I don't think they'll be able to override the natives,

I have 2 relatives who are retired school teachers (Hey! If I could pick my relatives, I would, ok? They're on my husbands side!).
They moved from NY to Florida, and were some of the kookiest left wing activists you could ever meet. I blocked them over and over from our e-mail list.
After they moved to Florida, and were there about a year, they became not only Conservative Republicans, but actually started attending church! I kid you not.
Life must be a heck of allot different down there than it is in NY!

31 posted on 08/12/2005 10:28:06 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: SunnyD1182

I had my post removed because I mixed up red and blue. I meant that Florida was moving toward the conservative column. If you read that context of my post it was obvious that's what I meant. Rush also very often says the opposite of what he means, but we all know what he means.


32 posted on 08/12/2005 10:30:26 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Koran 9:123 "Make war on the infidels who dwell around you.")
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To: Gipper08

Hackett is a lib and he came within 4 points, even while literally and publicly calling the President a POS. RINO corruption has taken its toll in Ohio and I wouldn't be surprised to see Democrats swept into the governor's house and Senate there in 2006.


33 posted on 08/12/2005 11:03:12 AM PDT by youthgonewild
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Hackett is a lib and he came within 4 points, even while literally and publicly calling the President a POS.

He campaigned as a close friend and advocate of Bush. Behind the scenes, away from the voters, he called Bush a POS.
He got caught.
At the last minute, the word got out. We're lucky it did. He was a flaming wacko liberal trying to deceive the voters that he was more a Republican than a democrat. As a matter of fact, he never publicly mentioned he was a democrat! He ran like a Republican, and he almost got away with it.

34 posted on 08/12/2005 11:23:57 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: youthgonewild

You are talking about a special elction in August which will have a turnout around 25% and a Democrat who never ran on the issues but on his service to the United States. Most people are not like those here on this board. They don't care about politics right now because they are sick of it.


35 posted on 08/12/2005 11:24:03 AM PDT by nascaryankee
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To: Theodore R.

No!
Is Ohio Turning Blue?
Human Events Online Gizzi, John
THIS is why they shouldn't make these guys write too often or in the summer of odd years.


37 posted on 08/12/2005 1:40:40 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (The ratmedia: always eager to remind us of why we hate them.)
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To: concerned about politics
After they moved to Florida, and were there about a year, they became not only Conservative Republicans, but actually started attending church! I kid you not. Life must be a heck of allot different down there than it is in NY!

Have you spent any time in the South ? When two New Yorkers meet they ask, "Where do you work ?". When two Southerners meet they ask, "What church do you go to ?". It is the center of the social life of any Southern community. When the service is over the Southern church doesn't empty out like an office at 5pm Friday the way a suburban Catholic church does. People socialize.

38 posted on 08/12/2005 2:15:41 PM PDT by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: FlipWilson

"From what I have read 52-48% in a special election is a wide margin given the low turnout associated with such elections."

I don't know what you're reading, but 52-48 is a close election, especially in a district where President Bush won 64% of the vote. Any decent Republican should have been able to win this running away. Instead, RINO Taft and his RINO lackey Jean Schmidt nearly cost us a safe seat. And who knows what will happen when Schmidt's close friend Larry Householder gets indicted. We could still lose this seat.


40 posted on 08/13/2005 7:27:01 PM PDT by conservative_2001 (Defeat Jean Schmidt and Paul Hackett in 2006!)
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