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To: King Prout

the word is "irreducible"

that word means "cannot be reduced"

Person A: this structure has an irreducible complexity of 40 proteins

Person B: well, this variant does the same job with 33 proteins

that knocks the "irrecucible" bit out the window... until the IDiots move their goalposts... AGAIN.
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I apologize. My hands don't work very well...and I struck the incorrect key. I didn't see my error. I do understand the definition of irreducible.

So the issue is that it is stated that a structure has been postulated to be "irreducible" at 40 proteins and now it has been discovered exist at 33 proteins. So irreducible has become a moving target?

BTW...why are you so demeaning?


151 posted on 08/12/2005 3:29:41 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Mmmmmmm! Mmmmmmm! Good!)
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To: Chickensoup

because I am grown weary of seeing the same errors based on argumentum ad incredulum posted over and over and over as "scientific"

I am not "demeaning" - I am sarcastic and uncharitable.

IDiocy is itself demeaning.


152 posted on 08/12/2005 3:33:19 PM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: Chickensoup
So irreducible has become a moving target?

Irreducible is not just a moving target. It is a fantasy. It is not just that the 40 unit thingie can be reduced to 33 parts. It is much worse than that. The forty parts can be broken into other less complex things that serve less complex functions, but are nevertheless useful.

Irreducible complexity is not a new idea. The entire concept in its modern form was published 200 years ago. It was the inspiration for Darwin to do his research. Origin of Species was his response. there is nothing in Behe's argument that wasn't published 200 years ago and which hasn't been the foil, so to speak, behind most biological research.

162 posted on 08/12/2005 5:36:14 PM PDT by js1138 (Science has it all: the fun of being still, paying attention, writing down numbers...)
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To: Chickensoup

Do ya think KING may have something to do with it???


232 posted on 08/14/2005 2:37:24 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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