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He quotes Krugman right off the bat, so you know where this one's headed, LOL!
1 posted on 08/08/2005 5:43:00 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

It isn't that there'd be more jobs. There'd just be fewer people to apply for them.


2 posted on 08/08/2005 5:45:32 PM PDT by wolfpat (dum vivimus, vivamus)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The other side of the story would be tax breaks for the real estate the factory sits on and other hidden tax breaks on labor that are probably being subsidized to get some paying jobs in the Peoples Republic of Canada.


3 posted on 08/08/2005 5:46:17 PM PDT by Thebaddog (How's yer dawgs?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Of even greater interest is the plant in Baja, Mexico which is almost fully robotic, with very few employees, and a private army to guard the facility in a lawless land. Toyota placed it there to keep it under the radar. I know some of the executives in Georgetown, KY, Toyota's largest plant, and have been keeping up with the progress. Better than low corporate costs for health care are No costs for health care. If this plant meets projections and is replicated by other auto makers, it could mean the end of auto manufacturing and their unions as we know them.


5 posted on 08/08/2005 5:53:31 PM PDT by Whitehawk
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Of even greater interest is the plant in Baja, Mexico which is almost fully robotic, with very few employees, and a private army to guard the facility in a lawless land. Toyota placed it there to keep it under the radar. I know some of the executives in Georgetown, KY, Toyota's largest plant, and have been keeping up with the progress. Better than low corporate costs for health care are No costs for health care. If this plant meets projections and is replicated by other auto makers, it could mean the end of auto manufacturing and their unions as we know them.


6 posted on 08/08/2005 5:54:10 PM PDT by Whitehawk
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Someday we're going to face the facts. The argument over a national health program is no longer whether it amounts to "socialized" medicine in the capitalist U.S. It's now whether our refusal to enact a national system - Medicare, for example, for all - is going to wind up devastating our economy.

If this is right, I suppose we need to enact a "national system" for food, housing, clothing, and all other necessities.

7 posted on 08/08/2005 5:55:29 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

This must explain why Canada and Europe have lower unemployment rates than the US... oh wait...


8 posted on 08/08/2005 6:00:38 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Yeah,.... right! {/sarc


9 posted on 08/08/2005 6:06:34 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I am just plain embarassed to admit that I got a BSEE in 1970 and an MBA in 1977 from the UW Madison!


15 posted on 08/08/2005 6:33:51 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (BOHICA!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Big government is like snake oil. When it fails to cure, the answer is to take more.

The real answer to the cost of health care is to move the function back to where it belongs: with each individual. An employer has no more business being involved in the health care of his workers than he does in providing their food, clothing or shelter.

I speak as one who has had the dreadful job of choosing the health care insurance plan for a company. One size does not fit all! And nobody would buy the plan if they were spending their own money.

The real solution is to give everyone an Medical Savings Account along with their portion of the group health premium and let them shop for themselves. This premium is really part of their compensation anyway.

(Make no mistake, our health care cost problems originate in the tax system! It is because health care costs are largely carried by employers due to a law passed during World War II!)

But this points out how we get screwed several hidden ways by the tax system made necessary by the insatiable need for money of big and bigger government.

In Europe, the cost of the finished goods does not include the "burden" of the pro-rated cost of employee health care. The can be several percent of the finished cost. So, European companies have this advantage over their competition in the US.

But also the European corporate Value Added Tax is rebated for goods that are exported, while in the US, our corporate taxes are not. This is a difference of several percent.

Add several percent to several percent and it is pretty easy to see how our tax system is screwing up the ability of Americans to compete in the world.
21 posted on 08/08/2005 7:02:49 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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They better solve the illegal alien problem before they think about National Health Care.
22 posted on 08/08/2005 7:05:18 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

An article posted on Free Republic about three weeks ago stated that Toyota claimed they weren't building plants here because Americans are too stupid and uneducated. Toyota stated that they had to train American workers with pictures because they can't read and write. I can see why the hysterical Liberals came up with the nonsense in this article. The NEA is a branch of their party.


25 posted on 08/08/2005 7:19:25 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Yes Sir.! Womb to Tomb Baby. Nothing else will do for the left.


29 posted on 08/09/2005 8:59:22 AM PDT by Pompah
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