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Voices of 911 Petition Drive to Stop Random Names

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1 posted on 08/06/2005 5:47:17 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

Are there any long term memorial or site plans for the WTC site or nearby that aren't ilconceived?

It seems to me that special interests have taken over, and it's a screw what the families think, "I know what's best" mentality has taken over.

This is yet another disgusting non-repsonsive thumb in your eye act aimed squarely at the families. Any such concerns should have their permits revoked, unless it can be proven that the families are being unreasonable.

It is not unreasonable for the families to try to avoid the same problem they had finding their family member's name on a very important list, when visiting this memorial. It seems most cruel to ignore this.


2 posted on 08/06/2005 5:55:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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"The last thing I want to have to do is visit a memorial where I again have to search for her name," said Meehan, 62, of Carteret.

That's right. Noboby else died but your daughter. Who wants to read those other people's stupid names.

Sheesh.

3 posted on 08/06/2005 5:56:58 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If we're The Religious Right, does that make them The Godless Left? Discuss.)
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"The nature of the tragedy itself was random," said committee chairman James Gray of Manalapan, whose son, 32-year-old Christopher, was killed in the Twin Towers.

"It was a random act," explained Aileen Ryan Burden, whose 45-year-old brother, John J. Ryan Jr., was killed on 9/11. "We just thought it was the fairest way to do it. We wanted everybody to be treated equally, with no hierarchy or title."

How stupid. Stupid or dishonest.

How bad off are we when the people planning a memorial feel infinite compassion toward the attackers and none toward the victims and their families (those who are unsophisticated enough to miss the grand point, I mean)?

4 posted on 08/06/2005 6:00:31 PM PDT by Generic_Login_1787
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We just thought it was the fairest way to do it. We wanted everybody to be treated equally, with no hierarchy or title."

I think it would be more politically correct if we just put an "x" representing each person. You know if some people have longer names then that is not fair. /sarc

6 posted on 08/06/2005 6:15:38 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Intelligent design is self evident)
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Image hosted by Photobucket.com yeah, i guess listing them by the floor they worked on and next to the people they died with was just toooo much to ask...
8 posted on 08/06/2005 6:21:51 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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I remember when the Vietnam War Memorial plans were announced. The outrage and furor over a memorial that was little more than a wall in a hole in the ground. And the families that were upset that they were not consulted about neither the design nor the decision to list the names by the year that they died.

Today it is one of the most visited memorials in the US. It is amazing how a few years can change our perspective, and how too often we can be too close to see the bigger picture.

9 posted on 08/06/2005 6:25:27 PM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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These names are listed in order of the date of death. I never understood that before, and I thought it cruel to make it harder for people to find their loved ones.

Now I understand why. Two reasons. The first one was made clear to me when I recently visited the traveling wall in Fresno, and a veteran pointed out to me the half dozen men from his helicopter crew, all of whom were killed in a crash. Their names were listed together, because they all died together.

The 2nd reason is so that people get involved in the search. All you have to do is go to the reference and look up the name alphabetically, then go to the correct panel and line number, and presto, there's the name. But it makes you become involved. An alphabetic list would tend to cause someone to go...look...and walk away without becoming part of the "process" of the memorial. I remember the times I have greived for the loss of someone, and I ended up appreciating when the flow of events were setup in such a way to make me step out of my own thoughts and participate in a process in which everyone else is participating. Even if it's just simply the act of first having to look on an alphabetical list to show me where to go to find the person I'm looking for.

I guess I'm saying here that I like the idea of not listing the names alphabetically. I'm not sure that random is better than some other order that could be derived, such as the floor they worked on, or something else, but I think that at least random is better than pure alphabetical. I'd have to really think about it for a while to determine if I'd like something else better.

12 posted on 08/06/2005 6:49:43 PM PDT by MarineBrat (We are taxed twice as much by our idleness. -- Benjamin Franklin)
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List them all or none of them.


16 posted on 08/07/2005 9:05:07 PM PDT by Liberty Valance ( Howdy!)
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What is it with this sudden compulsion to list the names of the victims on a memorial? I don't recall any monument before the Vietnam Memorial listing names. Have we become a nation of number freaks? "My memorial is better than your memorial because it has more names."

Let's just build a memorial that tells of whatever tragic event occured, perhaps mention the number of people who lost their lives, and leave it at that.


18 posted on 08/07/2005 9:15:39 PM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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