Posted on 08/05/2005 8:52:05 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
INDIANAPOLIS (AP) - The NCAA banned the use of American Indian mascots by sports teams during its postseason tournaments, but will not prohibit them otherwise.
The NCAA's executive committee decided this week the organization did not have the authority to bar Indian mascots by individual schools, committee chairman Walter Harrison said Friday.
Nicknames or mascots deemed ``hostile or abusive'' would not be allowed by teams on their uniforms or other clothing beginning with any NCAA tournament after Feb. 1, said Harrison, the University of Hartford's president.
``What each institution decides to do is really its own business'' outside NCAA championship events, he said.
Guidelines were not immediately available on which logos and nicknames would be considered ``hostile or abusive.''
The NCAA two years ago recommended that schools determine for themselves whether the Indian depictions were offensive.
Among the schools to change nicknames in recent years over such concerns were St. John's (from Redmen to Red Storm) and Marquette (from Warriors to Golden Eagles).
The NCAA plans to ban schools using Indian nicknames from hosting postseason events. Harrison said schools with such mascots that have already been selected as tournament sites would be asked to cover any offensive logos.
Such logos also would be prohibited at postseason games on cheerleader and band uniforms starting in 2008.
Being a Nole alum, I know the name calling is a result of years of domination in NCAA football. When losses and humiliation set in and pride is ripped out and stomped on, the only thing left is name calling.
You've completely missed his point, but since you started out on this thread by issuing a red herring, and followed up with more, it seems to be intentional.
None of us here are arguing in favor of silly empty PC actions or favoritism, which was what the thread was about. Continued enforcement of agreements signed long ago is not seeking 'special rights' or status, no matter how much you try to escalate the topic with KKK accusations. Calm down.
No, the jokes are in response to years of illegal and unethical behavior by your schools athletes and athletic department.
Nice try.
I definitely see racism in this NCAA ruling.
White heritage from the "Irish" to the "Spartans" can be honored but Native Americans are denied that honor in spite of a tribal resolution desiring it.
June 17, 2005..... Seminole Tribe supports use of Seminole name
Some vicious law firm needs to go after the NCAA's deep pockets and make them pay through the nose for this vile, racist ruling.
How about if they changed the team's name to the Washington Rednecks?
How could you ban the name both ILL and FLA state I like stupid NCAA do that
COME ON NCAA what bunch of morons
Nice try indeed. Let those without sin cast the first stones. FSU just goes under the magnifying glass more often due to success of the program. No one gives a rats ass if players or coaches at Wake Forest do anything illegal. And you cant tell me they dont.
Sign me,
Former Marching Illini - '78,'79
delightfully wicked.
You could (and should) be lead plaintiff in a class action suit. Ping to all FReeper lawyers.
You are on track, the PC movement knows no end to the enhancement of government control. Obviously these attempts to ban certain mascot names is in that direction. In the ideal PC Utopia, all people would be considered to be from the same group, and it would not be named something that excites and stimulates the group to compete and win a great victory, Because competition and victories will all be gone. The problem with Utopians is that they always end up enslaving people. I would be happy to see the NCAA stopped right now.
FSU Bill Clinton just goes under the magnifying glass more often due to success of the program Democrats. No one gives a rats ass if players or coaches at Wake Forest Republicans do anything illegal. And you cant tell me they dont.
Illinois is derived from "iliniwok", apparently from the Algonquin term for "warriors" or "tribe of superior men". (Google is so much fun.) So is the state name offensive? If the state name isn't offensive, why should an Indian mascot for the flagship university in the state be offensive? What if the U of I has a few Native Americans enrolled? Is it OK then?
Being from Wisconsin, I always like the Rhinelander HS mascot -- the Hodag.
There's a bunch of mythological Indian beasties out there - maybe the schools that are facing this idiotic rule could change to one of them. When Marquette was dithering over a new name, I suggested the Piasa Bird, a legendary and fearsome creature of Indian lore described by Pere Marquette. Much more awe-inspiring than a golden eagle.
How about something more like this:
Just when you might think we can't do any more stupid things, we manage to do another stupid thing. We are so lucky to have such people in charge of the NCAA.
If this stands, that WILL be next.
My wife's family came over from Vik in Denmark. Should they be protesting the Minnesota Vikings?
Or for that matter, should all FReepers protest the New England Patriots?
My point is that the story here is not the mascots, but the motivation of those pushing for the ban on the mascots.
The motivation is just an attempt to tweak the nose of paleface.
As far as "continued enforcement of agreements signed long ago" I don't think they specified free college educations.
As far as escalating the topic goes, that honor goes to those who claim to be "More Equal"!
I guess it would be one thing if the mascot were a druken casino owner...
But these schools mascots are a symbol of reverence, not meant as an ethnic slur.
What's next, Irish groups protesting the Celtics?
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