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Grad Student Believes Wood May Replace Oil
YAHOO NEWS ^ | 08/03/2005 | AP

Posted on 08/04/2005 6:35:33 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

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1 posted on 08/04/2005 6:35:33 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

What do you heat it to 900 degrees with?


2 posted on 08/04/2005 6:36:35 AM PDT by Puddleglum (Thank God the Boston blowhard lost)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

So all we'll be doing is replacing the Muslim Terrorists' with Eco Terrorists?


3 posted on 08/04/2005 6:37:40 AM PDT by mcg2000
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"What do you heat it to 900 degrees with?"

A a big magnifying glass.


4 posted on 08/04/2005 6:41:15 AM PDT by jbstrick (insert clever tagline here)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Juan Andres Soria is a block head. Just try cutting down trees for bio-oil in this country and see what happens.

Hey Juan, I have a novel idea, why don't we simply drill for oil?

5 posted on 08/04/2005 6:42:54 AM PDT by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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Not a very good plan... It's more expensive than oil and would result in even more loss of forestry.


6 posted on 08/04/2005 6:42:56 AM PDT by utvolsfan13
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Interestingly enough, you can grow three times the amount of biomass per acre growing hemp than you can growing trees.

Hemp makes far superior paper products as well.

The only problem is that another name for hemp is marijuana.

7 posted on 08/04/2005 6:42:57 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws spawned the runaway federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I guess these youngsters didn't catch the switch from wood to coal in those old steam engines. Seems they were'nt getting enough energy from the wood.


8 posted on 08/04/2005 6:42:59 AM PDT by GingisK
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I'm ready to go!


9 posted on 08/04/2005 6:43:03 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (This ain't your granddaddy's America)
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To: Puddleglum
What do you heat it to 900 degrees with?

Hydrogen.

10 posted on 08/04/2005 6:44:23 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (This ain't your granddaddy's America)
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To: Puddleglum
A nuke-ular reactor!.

So we take wood pulp,skip turning it into COAL,but turn it into oil...and at the same time we are taking coal and turning it into GAS...and at the same time we want to some how produce hydrogen fuel from....nevermind,i need another cup of joe

11 posted on 08/04/2005 6:45:28 AM PDT by Minnesoootan
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I grew up in the logging business,and always believed we needed to collect the MASSIVE amount of scrap left behind....there is a dump truck load of useable material around that Cat


12 posted on 08/04/2005 6:49:08 AM PDT by Minnesoootan
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

2005 becomes 1905, and town gas becomes all the rage again.


13 posted on 08/04/2005 6:51:22 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Sounds like he "discovered" what Changing World Technologies has already figured out.


14 posted on 08/04/2005 6:52:13 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Minnesoootan

A company called Changing World Technology is already trying this idea. It's received alot of press about a demonstration plant in Missouri and it's backed by alot of big players.

Unfortunately the demo plant just can't the process working properly. It sounds like everything in these high pressure, high temperature reactors has to work together perfectly or its a no-go.

http://www.changingworldtech.com/


15 posted on 08/04/2005 6:52:26 AM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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To: Puddleglum
What do you heat it to 900 degrees with?

Rub two sticks together?
16 posted on 08/04/2005 6:52:45 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Islam is war)
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"What do you heat it to 900 degrees with?"

Typically, either part of the feedstock, product, or a waste product from the process. Best would be the waste product, obviously.

But why bother. Seems far easier to do destructive distillation of the wood to produce more methanol, and then just burn the methanol. Converting wood AND methanol to "bio-oil" seems a bit counter-productive.

17 posted on 08/04/2005 6:53:06 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: hflynn

Exactly, you can't cut a tree down to make a good baseball bat ... let alone a gallon of bio-oil.


18 posted on 08/04/2005 6:54:04 AM PDT by dartuser (It is unbelievable what an unbeliever will believe to remain an unbeliever.)
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To: Puddleglum

Ethanol!


19 posted on 08/04/2005 6:54:47 AM PDT by Fog Nozzle
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To: Puddleglum
What do you heat it to 900 degrees with?

Like any of the depolymerization techniques, this can be done with a small fraction of the energy gained in the output, as is true with oil refineries. Trees, as all life on earth, are hydrocarbon based. Trees get their energy from the sun to grow, which is converted into hydrocarbons. Therefore, all hydrocarbon based energy sources are really "solar power."

20 posted on 08/04/2005 6:54:50 AM PDT by D Rider
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