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But Why Can't Hillary Win? (delusional Leftist alert)
Slate ^ | 7/30/05 | Weisberg

Posted on 07/30/2005 6:25:56 AM PDT by pabianice

Don't like Hillary? Join the club!

Political insiders mostly agree: Despite being an early front-runner for the 2008 Democratic nomination, Hillary Clinton faces long odds of ever being elected president. But if she can't win, why can't she?

One facile argument, often voiced by Hillary-loathers on the right, is that she's too far to the left. The "real" Hillary is closer to Howard Dean than Bill Clinton, a recent piece in the National Review asserted. Wrong! An unhedged supporter of the war in Iraq, Sen. Clinton stands at the hawkish, interventionist extreme of her party on foreign policy. Despite her pandering vote against CAFTA, she's a confirmed free-trader and deficit hawk. On the cultural issues that often undermine Democrats, she seeks common ground, sometimes with flat-earth conservatives like Rick Santorum, and has been nattering about the "tragedy" of abortion. Even Hillary's notorious government takeover of health care was misconstrued as an ultra-lib stance. In opting for a mixed, private-public managed-competition plan, the then-first lady was repudiating the single-payer model long favored by paleo-liberals. Her plan was flawed in many ways, but it wasn't what Ted Kennedy wanted...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
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To: pabianice
she's a confirmed . . . deficit hawk.
Of course she is. "Deficit hawk" being defined as "vigorous advocate for high tax rates."

The truth is, of course, the such prior "deficit hawks" as LBJ, Jimmy Carter, Tip O'Neal, Robert Byrd, George Mitchel, et al have "deficit hawked" us into a huge financial hole known as the "Social Security Trust Fund" - trillions of dollars "invested in safe government bonds" which are liabilities to the federal treasury. Debt which will come home to roost in the next generation, with the Retirement Boom echo of the Baby Boom. And the only solution which Hillary or any other Democrat offers is more of the same, on autopilot until the Federal Government has no money for anything else - and devalues its debt via inflation.


21 posted on 07/30/2005 6:43:26 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: pabianice

I think its dangerous to assume she can't win. Unfortunately, she will be a stronger candidate than most assume. Make no mistake, the Left and MSM will go ALL out for her, in a way they never did for Gore, Kerry, or even her husband. It will be war and the GOP won't have a strong candidate like W to oppose her. They know that if she wins the election, that will be the last fair national election this country will ever have.


22 posted on 07/30/2005 6:47:32 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: auboy


23 posted on 07/30/2005 6:49:37 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: randog
Two words for you--John Kerry.

He lost, didn't he? Must have been because not enough people knew about his Viet Nam tours. Blame the MSM for that.

24 posted on 07/30/2005 6:50:09 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: pabianice

No way the American voters will make us have Hillary as Commander in Chief. That woman is the devil and would ruin morale in the military.


25 posted on 07/30/2005 6:52:54 AM PDT by DuckFan4ever (Go away Hillary and Sen Granny Reid. I can't stand either of you.)
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To: Bigh4u2

But...but...but... she's against violent video games. That makes her a 'centrist'.


26 posted on 07/30/2005 6:53:49 AM PDT by DuckFan4ever (Go away Hillary and Sen Granny Reid. I can't stand either of you.)
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To: pabianice

This is actually a pro-Hillary piece that is trying to point out what a centrist Hillary is, because in the end everyone knows that the Democrat fringe groups will vote for a zombie as long as he has a "D" after his name.


27 posted on 07/30/2005 6:54:42 AM PDT by Eva
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To: rbg81

I do think that RICE on the ticket neuters the female dog.

Absent that, and barring her unfortunate demise, the clintons may very well return to office, and we all will be saying "President Clinton" for another 8 years, while the DU laughs.


28 posted on 07/30/2005 6:55:40 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: DuckFan4ever

LOL!


29 posted on 07/30/2005 6:56:42 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Dane
First there is no perot to be found, second the liberal media monopoly has been broken, and third with the advent of the internet and talk radio, people are much more knowledgeable of the clintons deceptions, and I'll add a fourth, hillary doesn't exactly ooze personality.

And you wonder why the SwiftVets got "traction" last year and ruined Senator Kerry's campaign and why Dan Rather/CBS News took a major beating over those faked Texas ANG memos. Senator Hillary Clinton can't count on a friendly press anymore because the modern public Internet with its bloggers will start digging up all the "dirt" on her and that could cause her no end of grief in 2008.

30 posted on 07/30/2005 6:57:20 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: exDemMom

Kerry damn near beat a sitting president.

We were one state away from having that boob in the White house.

And Hillary will have the Clinton machine, and that worries me more than hollywood, Dean and the DNC.


31 posted on 07/30/2005 6:59:41 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: nairBResal

Welcome to FR troll. Hopefully you can get some enlightenment in here. It's a much happier place than DU.


32 posted on 07/30/2005 7:02:11 AM PDT by DuckFan4ever (Go away Hillary and Sen Granny Reid. I can't stand either of you.)
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To: exDemMom

Yeah, he lost...by 3%. He should have lost by at least 20% if not for the efforts of the MSM.


33 posted on 07/30/2005 7:03:26 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: bill1952

Don't even suggest that. Hillary Clinton would be a disaster in more ways than you can imagine. Who knows what she is capable of, but I can believe she would be the President most likely to cause a military coup in this country, and that's saying a lot.


34 posted on 07/30/2005 7:05:25 AM PDT by DuckFan4ever (Go away Hillary and Sen Granny Reid. I can't stand either of you.)
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To: randog

Yup...........No matter who the dems put up, the repubs will always have to fight the MSM attack machine also.


35 posted on 07/30/2005 7:06:12 AM PDT by umgud (Comment removed by poster before moderator could get to it)
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To: pabianice

Why can't Hillary explain how her fingerprints got on those Whitewater documents which she claimed she knew nothing about?


36 posted on 07/30/2005 7:06:42 AM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (Make welfare as hard to get as a building permit)
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To: pabianice

37 posted on 07/30/2005 7:08:41 AM PDT by Tuba Guy (' Only YOU Can Prevent Hillary! ')
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To: pabianice
Wrong! An unhedged supporter of the war in Iraq, Sen. Clinton stands at the hawkish, interventionist extreme of her party on foreign policy. Despite her pandering vote against CAFTA, she's a confirmed free-trader and deficit hawk.

"Ignore her voting record, she's nothing like that. And, while you're at it, ignore her speeches to her base, she's nothing like that either. Especially ignore when she says socialist things like, 'We're going to take things away from you for the common good', because she's really not like that."

38 posted on 07/30/2005 7:09:44 AM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: pabianice
Why can't Hillie win?

It ain't rocket science.

39 posted on 07/30/2005 7:10:27 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: nairBResal

Hillary does have some support among the college age women as I have been apprised. But for the no-nonsense, conservative to moderate folk I have talked to, they all see her as the conniving "wife" of a philandering rapist who will do whatever it takes to gain power.


40 posted on 07/30/2005 7:10:59 AM PDT by 1alivenohio (Ohio is quiet, yet her citizens are able to speak.)
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