Bush Holds Fast to Stem-Cell Veto Threat

Newday, AP ^ | 7/29/05

[Dane]

Bush Holds Fast to Stem-Cell Veto Threat

By Associated Press

July 29, 2005, 3:47 PM EDT

WASHINGTON -- President Bush went out of his way Friday to show he had no hard feelings with Bill Frist after the Senate majority leader broke with him on human embryonic stem cell research. But Bush held fast to his veto threat.

Frist had called Bush Thursday evening and said he was going to deliver a speech saying the restrictions imposed by the president in 2001 should be eased.

"You need to vote your conscience," Bush told Frist, according to White House spokesman Scott McClellan. As for Bush's threat to veto any such legislation, McClellan said, "Nothing's changed in terms of his position."

[Dane]

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[Central Scrutiniser]

Amen, good for Frist.

[nopardons]

Frist's presidential desires don't stand a snowball's chance in Hades.

[MNJohnnie]

"Bill Frist finally used his common sense that should be inherent to being a doctor of medicine. I believe Frist learned a huge lesson from Jeb Bush's blunder in Florida. Frist must come out as a moderate, just like G.W. Bush, and win '08"

texasborderhunt
Since Jul 23, 2005

Welcome to Free Republic. Why is it that everyone of your posts sounds like a DNC Talking Point memo?

[Dane]

GW Bush isn't a moderate and Jeb Bush didn't make a mistake in trying to help a family, the Schindlers, who was more than willing to take care of their daughter, and let her bigamist husband walk away.

[MNJohnnie]

Amen, good for Frist.


In what sense? There is no scientific evidence to back up the Hysteric Left's claims about embryonic stem cells. So all Frist managed to do is piss off the Republican base by kowtowing to the Hysteric Left's latest psuedo-scientific cause.

[AntiGuv]

It would be interesting to see what Bush would do if the stem cell provision were attached to some big huge pork bill. It's hard to imagine Bush able to bring himself to veto a big, huge, fat pork bill..

[msnimje]

Bill Frist finally used his common sense that should be inherent to being a doctor of medicine

There is not a single (NOT ONE) case of ESC ever being successful in animal or human studies. Yet there are THOUSANDS of cases of Adult Stems Cells helping people. You people have no desire to really help people recover, you just want to keep the slaughter of babies legal and somehow have come to worship the process.

[kisanri]

Bill Frist’s claim that he’s “pro-life” and believes “that life begins at conception,” but now supports killing embryos for research?
He also says “[Embryonic stem-cell research] should advance in a manner that affords all human life dignity and respect — the same dignity and respect we bring to the table as we work with children and adults to advance the frontiers of medicine and health.”
If it’s going to be “the same dignity and respect,” does that mean we’re going to carve up, and kill, children and adults whenever there’s a chance to make a medical advance?

[AntiGuv]

You are right of course. Bush isn't a moderate. He's mostly a liberal.

[Manic_Episode]

Amen. Good for W.

[newzjunkey]

Who thinks the veto-adverse Bush will cave?

Frist has doomed any White House aspirations he ever had.

What sort of fool says he's "prolife" that life begins at conception, the embryos are human beings but comes out *for* shoving the taxpayer's hard earned dollars down the rat hole of embryonic stem cell "research?" I-D-I-O-T. When can we disband the Senate?

[Dane]

You are right of course. Bush isn't a moderate. He's mostly a liberal.

Blah, blah, blah, same old, same old, from the self-proclaimed "true conservative" caucus.

Bush ain't a liberal or a moderate, but you already knew that.

[Jaysun]

Frist knows this, always has. He's whoring himself out to the polls.

[AntiGuv]

Except for religion and taxes none of Bush's policies would've been out of place in the Clinton administration.. If you think otherwise, then by all means tell me why.

[tortoise]

If they aren't useful, no one will study them -- problem solved. Asserting that they are or are not useful a priori is foolishness and certainly not science. Even left-wing scientists won't work on embryonic stem cells for the sole purpose of pissing off the right-wing fundies. They want the fame and money that comes with actually accomplishing something, just like most everyone else.

I support stem cell research (though I am dubious about the government funding any research), and the stupidity of using embryonic stem cells should not be determined by fiat but by fair trade in the market of science. It is grossly disingenuous and prima facie discrediting to oppose research that would supports one's position, which appears to be your position. Any argument that cannot withstand rigorous scrutiny is rightly ignored as the blatherings of a fool.

Let them have embryonic stem cells. If they are relatively worthless as you assert with great vigor, people will stop using them in short order without government interference -- a win/win in my book.

[Dane]

Except for religion and taxes none of Bush's policies would've been out of place in the Clinton administration..

Yeah really Bush signed on to the Kyoto treaty and the International court and appointed ruth bader ginsberg, etc.etc.(roling eyes)

[tortoise]

Bush ain't a liberal or a moderate, but you already knew that.

Anybody who spends as much as he does on feel-good social programs is no conservative either. Vetoing unimportant things like embryonic stem cell research does not change this fact.

Bush is a socialist in Christian Right clothing who throws just enough bones to the real conservatives to keep them from leaving the reservation.

[Dane]

Bush is a socialist in Christian Right clothing who throws just enough bones to the real conservatives to keep them from leaving the reservation.

And Eisenhower was a communist, correct?