[msnimje]

Bill Frist finally used his common sense that should be inherent to being a doctor of medicine

There is not a single (NOT ONE) case of ESC ever being successful in animal or human studies. Yet there are THOUSANDS of cases of Adult Stems Cells helping people. You people have no desire to really help people recover, you just want to keep the slaughter of babies legal and somehow have come to worship the process.

[tortoise]

If they aren't useful, no one will study them -- problem solved. Asserting that they are or are not useful a priori is foolishness and certainly not science. Even left-wing scientists won't work on embryonic stem cells for the sole purpose of pissing off the right-wing fundies. They want the fame and money that comes with actually accomplishing something, just like most everyone else.

I support stem cell research (though I am dubious about the government funding any research), and the stupidity of using embryonic stem cells should not be determined by fiat but by fair trade in the market of science. It is grossly disingenuous and prima facie discrediting to oppose research that would supports one's position, which appears to be your position. Any argument that cannot withstand rigorous scrutiny is rightly ignored as the blatherings of a fool.

Let them have embryonic stem cells. If they are relatively worthless as you assert with great vigor, people will stop using them in short order without government interference -- a win/win in my book.