[tortoise]

If they aren't useful, no one will study them -- problem solved. Asserting that they are or are not useful a priori is foolishness and certainly not science. Even left-wing scientists won't work on embryonic stem cells for the sole purpose of pissing off the right-wing fundies. They want the fame and money that comes with actually accomplishing something, just like most everyone else.

I support stem cell research (though I am dubious about the government funding any research), and the stupidity of using embryonic stem cells should not be determined by fiat but by fair trade in the market of science. It is grossly disingenuous and prima facie discrediting to oppose research that would supports one's position, which appears to be your position. Any argument that cannot withstand rigorous scrutiny is rightly ignored as the blatherings of a fool.

Let them have embryonic stem cells. If they are relatively worthless as you assert with great vigor, people will stop using them in short order without government interference -- a win/win in my book.

[msnimje]

Let them have embryonic stem cells. If they are relatively worthless as you assert with great vigor, people will stop using them in short order without government interference -- a win/win in my book

I agree but we should not lose sight of possible and even probable ulterior motives. It may very well have nothing to do with recovery but rather making destroying embryos acceptable.

[Lee Stetson]

Your assertion is totally without basis.
Useless research continues unabated as long as federal grant money is available. Multiple audits and analysis of federal grant recipients shows that "research scientists" will study any unproven or disproved assertion as long as there is grant money to be had to study it. To give credence to the thought that these money-grubbing frauds we call scientists have any thought about the usefulness of their "studies" is to perpetuate the liberal spending philosophy we are working to eliminate in this congress.