Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 11

Various News Outlets | 7/29/05

[TexKat]

Natalee Holloway is shown in this undated family photo. (AP Photo/family photo)

[truthluva]

I, for one, have begun to revisit the Shango prose. It is very time consuming and can become very eloborate in responding too.

Rip,
I have to agree that starting a new thread is the best way to to this. And I am one of the ones that was posting on this thread quite often. There are many other aspects of this case that are discussed here...most of which start out with some type of link or possible verification. Shango links are purely, in every sense of the word, speculation. It doesn't bleong on this thread.

I will be checking in on this thread a lot, but will still make use of the other. You are welcome to do the same.

That said...this is my last Shango post on this thread.

[Hand em their arse]

"...TexKat, you are doing a wonderful job with the threads, so make it easy on yourself..."



I was going to request that we each get our own seperate Ping.... I thought it would give that "just for you" type feel... : )

All kidding aside TK, you're awesome! You've really been going beyond the call on this... Much appreciation!

Dave

[Trust but Verify]

Shango links are purely, in every sense of the word, speculation.

As opposed to what? There's more speculation on these threads than there are democrats on anti-depressants.

[Li-Li]

I'LL Amen that. Speculation is ok if coming from the clique.

Now I am wondering if stlnative will return as bolta lightin? What did Rippersnapper do to be insulted?

[Froufrou]

"p.S. David the only one to leave the den alive... (because everyone elese is busted?) What's Dave Holloway's hotel?"

Aha! I thought that slip might have been intentional rather than incorrect (not saying Daniel vs David.)

I feel badly though that the search didn't yield more. I still think the raves need to be found, hence combing the beach will remain fruitless.

[ken5050]

FYI..haven't had a chance to scan the thread sincee late yesterday, so don't know if thius has been posted..but today's NY POST has a big article about the earlier Caribbean disappearance 5 years agi if a NYC girl.....some think it's related..."Tropical Cold Case Heating UP"..should be on their website....regards

[theophilusscribe]

Thanks so much, ken5050!

[looois]

Thanks for setting this up. I wasn't interested in this Shango stuff, but on second thought, it occurs to me that maybe whoever this is knows something. Maybe Shango is the "Who done it." Sometimes the bad guy wants to be caught and he leaves a trail. But riddles like this? Hope you guys figure out "who he" cause it might break the case.

Then again, maybe not

[Froufrou]

Thanks for asking what RS has done for the insults. I've enjoyed many posters here and didn't see any difference in RS vs other posters.

I apologize as the newbie greenster that I am, down to my core, for EVER mentioning the Pure Speculator - but I'm confused. Is that Shango or RS? Or me or some other FReeper posting here...?

[ken5050]

You're welcome..sorry I couldn't post a link..I can't access the Post from where I am now..

[WestCoastGal]

Happy Birthday, mine was yesterday too. :)

[TexKat]

Thanks for setting this up. I wasn't interested in this Shango stuff, but on second thought, it occurs to me that maybe whoever this is knows something. Maybe Shango is the "Who done it." Sometimes the bad guy wants to be caught and he leaves a trail. But riddles like this? Hope you guys figure out "who he" cause it might break the case.

If Shango knows some something then the FBI should know who he/she is by now.

[Palladin]

All that this means to me is that there are a lot of hustlers on that island who want to claim the reward money.

From Diario, from rumors, from TV reports, they cobble together stories that have just enough of a flavor of truth to get people like Jossy and Tom Miller to listen to them.

They will never find Natalee's body. Paulus Van der Sloot has made sure of that. "No body, no case".

[TexKat]

Thank you Dave.

[theophilusscribe]

TROPICAL 'COLD CASE' HEATING UP
http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/50680.htm

By DAN KADISON
PHOTO HAUNTING MEMORIES: New York travel writer Claudia Kirshhoch, 29, disappeared after spending time at this bar in Jamaica in 2000. Her parents, Mary Ann and Fred, say the case has disturbing echoes in this year's Aruba disappearance.

August 1, 2005 -- The anguished family of a Queens travel writer who mysteriously vanished in the Caribbean five years ago says there are chilling similarities between her case and that of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway, missing on Aruba.

"There are so many similarities — it's terribly stressful. We haven't slept much," said Fred Kirschhoch, the father of talented Frommer's Travel Guides editor Claudia Kirschhoch, 29. Claudia, who lived in Astoria, disappeared while on her way to a Sandals beach resort in Cuba for an assignment in May 2000.

The company sponsoring her trip had canceled at the last minute, during her stopover in Montego Bay, Jamaica. So it offered Kirschhoch a chance to see its Negril operations, and she accepted.

There, she befriended a bartender who took her to a reggae concert the night before she disappeared. Holloway, 18, also attended a concert the night before she vanished. Also like Holloway, one of the last sightings of Kirschhoch was on a beach.

Kirschhoch's parents, Fred and Mary Ann, believe that their daughter is dead and that two people — now former employees of Sandals — were either directly responsible for her death or know how she died. Those workers have consistently proclaimed their innocence.

The FBI has placed the matter into their "cold case" files, and the Kirschhochs charge that the local police don't seem interested in finding out how and why their daughter was killed, possibly to protect the island's tourism industry or someone involved.

But the Holloway case has generated new interest in their daughter's disappearance.

Holloway was last seen May 30 leaving a nightclub in Aruba with three men. No one has yet been charged.

Amid international media attention on that case, a Jamaican caller phoned a U.S. radio station last month to say two men had told him years ago that Claudia Kirschhoch was buried in a 55-gallon drum and that they knew where the drum was buried.

The Kirschhochs' own investigator is looking into the tip, as well as others, including one the dad said stemmed from an anonymous letter several years ago. That note stated that his daughter was slipped a date-rape drug at a party, fell into convulsions and died.

Meanwhile, the Kirschhochs sued Sandals in 2002, saying that the company didn't apprise their daughter of known risks in the area. The suit also charges that the firm spoiled evidence that might have led to arrests.

The company said in an e-mail last week, "Sandals Resorts feels great sympathy for the Kirschhoch family. This is a tragedy that no one should have to experience, and the company has been unwavering in its commitment to support authorities in the investigation into the disappearance of Claudia."

[Froufrou]

Belated Best Birthday Wishes to you both! Hope your days and the days to come are the spiffiest! ;o)

[theophilusscribe]

b-day was yesterday

:o)

[theophilusscribe]

To you to!

[TexKat]

Dave Holloway on Dan Abrams states that he cannot speak for the landfill witness. Dave stated that the witness said he keep calling and calling the ALE. Dave also stated that the FBI ran some dogs through the lanfill a couple to three weeks ago. Dave says the ALE lets him know if anything specific comes up.

[theophilusscribe]

Pinging you to the article (post 1,695). Thanks again! :o)