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1 posted on 07/27/2005 4:11:22 PM PDT by WaveMan
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To: WaveMan

Digital camera and a picture printer...lesson learned.


2 posted on 07/27/2005 4:13:45 PM PDT by cyborg (That's Mrs.Petronski to you thank you very much.)
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To: WaveMan

"Building socialism one family at a time" placemarker.


3 posted on 07/27/2005 4:13:49 PM PDT by headsonpikes ("The U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government.")
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To: WaveMan

I am curious what the husband looked like. He must have been pretty sketchy to get slammed like he did.

Gosh that situation was one crazy nightmare.


4 posted on 07/27/2005 4:14:52 PM PDT by Reagan79 (www.ird-renew.org)
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Also I can't believe he spent six months in jail like that.


5 posted on 07/27/2005 4:15:25 PM PDT by cyborg (That's Mrs.Petronski to you thank you very much.)
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This doesn't bother me. If I saw photos like this I'd steer clear of this couple and keep any children under my care from them as well. It's creepy like Lewinky's lawyer Bill Ginsburg saying on a Sunday talk show he used to kiss the insides of her infant thighs. I still shudder at the idea.


6 posted on 07/27/2005 4:15:31 PM PDT by newzjunkey (San Diego: PROP A PASSED! We Protect Mt Soledad War Memoral from annoyed atheists!)
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To be fair, I guess people are in a dammed if you do, dammed if you don't predicament when they report crime. Should they report something that may or may not be wrong and risk being wrong?

I would have thought that any investigation would have taken 5 minutes to exonerate the couple. But in this world, it looks like everything constitutes child abuse. Sure, we want to protect our children from harm, but we either don't do enough or we go overboard.

My father used to rub the top of his head (he wore a crewcut) over my brother's and my bare tummies. It tickled and we used to squeal with delight. I guess today if Dad did that, he too would have been arrested for child abuse.


8 posted on 07/27/2005 4:19:43 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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Was it really obvious the man was kissing the baby's navel and not a little lower? If so, this should have never even made it to court.

My sister had a nasty experience with CPS in Colorado. I've told the story before and it is too long to retell but you realize just how much power the government has over you when you see them walking out with your kids and dubbing you a sex offender or a child molester over some innocent behavior. You are presumed guilty until proven innocent.


10 posted on 07/27/2005 4:21:15 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (Visit Club Gitmo - The World's Only Air-Conditioned Gulag.)
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I think I would go back to the Eckard store and wait until the guy that called the cops left work. 5 months more in jail for kicking his ass all over town would be worth it.


13 posted on 07/27/2005 4:23:24 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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I've kissed my son's belly button, but not really kissed it. We were playing blowing on each others tummy's to make a tooting noise, LOL! My boys would just laugh and laugh when I did this to them. How sad some things like this are seen as sexual.


18 posted on 07/27/2005 4:25:23 PM PDT by Halls (Terri Schindler Schiavo was murdered legally in our country, NEVER FORGET!!!)
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Mom and Dad Hamaty

21 posted on 07/27/2005 4:28:50 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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This is just more socialism. CPS is the strong arm of the government with respect to families. I had a judge threaten me once to remove all my kids because their stupid system didn't let me call in, unless I was hearing impared, a vaccination record for one of my kids. It's a long story, I pulled my youngest out of public school after that incident, and that stupid DA was out of control. He had spit coming out of his mouth trying to accuse me of child abuse. I was dressed professionally for the court appearance, because I had to take time off from my job. Boy, that was a long time ago. The judge threw it out.
22 posted on 07/27/2005 4:30:01 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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From WRAL Web site - http://www.wral.com/news/4772296/detail.html#
Happy Ending For Raleigh Parents Accused Of Sex Offenses


RALEIGH, N.C. -- Imagine going to jail for showing playful affection toward your baby. Now cleared, Charbel and Teresa Hamaty say that is exactly what happened to them.

Police charged the Hamatys last August with child abuse, accusing Charbel Hamaty of sexual assault on the couple's newborn son. Teresa Hamaty was arrested for taking sexually explicit photos.


Police charged the Hamatys last August with child abuse, accusing Charbel Hamaty of sexual assault on the couple's newborn son. The charges were eventually dropped, but the legal nightmare lasted until Tuesday.

Speaking for the first time publicly about the accusations, the family says it is frustrated by the legal system, but thankful to be reunited.

Back home again, 16-month-old Kristoff Hamaty has no clue that his parents temporarily lost him and their freedom over what they considered innocent, loving pictures.

"I know and I believe it was a nightmare," Charbel Hamaty said. Last August, he was jailed on felony sex offenses for family photos he casually dropped off to be developed at a North Raleigh Eckerd.

In a batch of impromptu party pictures, a few showed a naked Kristoff, then an infant, being kissed by his half-sister, Victoria, and proud father Charbel.



In a batch of photos, a few showed a naked Kristoff, then an infant, being kissed by his half-sister, Victoria, and proud father Charbel.


"You see the back of the baby, and like if someone is kissing the baby's belly button," said Teresa Hamaty.

Instead, police saw the worst and also arrested Teresa Hamaty for taking sexually explicit photos.

At court appearances, dozens of Hamaty supporters showed up to argue that police overreacted.

Over time, family, friends and strangers from the United States, Canada, and Charbel Hamaty's home country of Lebanon raised $140,000 in legal and living expenses.

"(It) makes me feel, that's it -- that's why I have to be strong for -- to show everybody what the truth is," Charbel Hamaty said.

Teresa Hamaty was released on bond, but waited months to reunite with her children. Charbel Hamaty sat in jail six months before the district attorney dropped charges after an expert's report showed no criminal intent.

"I think this was one of those times that they got the wrong people," Teresa Hamaty said. "They were too quick to judge when they took one look at my husband."

Both police and the District Attorney's Office contend they reacted appropriately.

In hindsight, the Hamatys said they realize the photos could be misinterpreted at first glance. Now, they say they are just happy all of their legal troubles are behind them.

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25 posted on 07/27/2005 4:31:52 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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This experiment in Democracy maybe coming to an end.
27 posted on 07/27/2005 4:32:32 PM PDT by Porterville (Don't make me go Bushi on your a$$)
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To: Constitution Day; TaxRelief

NC ping!


30 posted on 07/27/2005 4:36:42 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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Zerbert Bandit Cleared!
31 posted on 07/27/2005 4:37:17 PM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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It works like this: The cop the photo people told didn't laugh at them because he likes them ratting him and doesn't want to discourage that. Then his superiors couldn't admit that any of their flunkies had made a mistake, so they had to back him. Then the prosecuter doesn't want to make his cops look bad, it might bring their judgment into question in other cases. And after all, it's just one six months and he doesn't even have a government job, so what's the problem?


34 posted on 07/27/2005 4:39:47 PM PDT by D.P.Roberts
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You cant make this stuff up.

A government letting convicted perverts out to murderer innocents

while pursuing this poor family for loving their child.

This is why we cannot look to government to run our lives.

It's not the government that is bad but the incompetent
Dilberts that gravitate to it's employment that will
get us.
41 posted on 07/27/2005 4:56:43 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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"I hate cameras," Charbel now says. "I don't like taking pictures."

False cause

How about: "I hate intrusive busybody governments!"

51 posted on 07/27/2005 5:04:14 PM PDT by Bear_Slayer (DOC - 81mm Mortars, Wpns Co. 2/3 KMCAS 86-89)
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This is just plain knutz.

So... I could have gone to jail for doing a raspberry on my kid's bellybutton when he was a baby? Have you ever SEEN how a baby laffs when you do this?

Message to Law Enforcement: Get a life of your own stay out of mine!


52 posted on 07/27/2005 5:05:11 PM PDT by neverhome (If Michael Jackson eats a fruitcake... izzit cannilbalism???)
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later pingout... maybe.


63 posted on 07/27/2005 5:13:25 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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