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Space Shuttle Fleet Grounded!
NASA sources | MB26

Posted on 07/27/2005 3:25:59 PM PDT by MindBender26

NASA realizes debris that fell of external fuel tank yesterday came close to causing irrepairable damage to shuttle now in orbit.

Fleet GROUNDED. More later

Chances to return to flight again, no better than 50/50.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government
KEYWORDS: deadlyfoam; enviromentalists; governmentprogram; grounded; nasa; rutan; shuttlediscovery; spaceprogram; spaceshuttle
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To: Southack

You answered my question...go back to the old formulation.


121 posted on 07/27/2005 4:03:32 PM PDT by hattend (Alaska....in a time warp all it's own!)
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To: xmm0
"Is this the newer environmentally friendly foam that has failed since pretty much since it was installed?"

DING Ding ding........we have a winner

122 posted on 07/27/2005 4:03:46 PM PDT by spokeshave (Strategery + Shardenfreuden = Stratenshardenfreudenery)
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To: The Pastor

NASA Director Griffen said yesterday this is primitive technology.


123 posted on 07/27/2005 4:03:52 PM PDT by RightWhale (Substance is essentially the relationship of accidents to itself)
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To: FreedomCalls

oooops "There" (Typo by Dombo)


124 posted on 07/27/2005 4:04:07 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: MindBender26

Isn't it true that we never had trouble with the foam - because there was no foam - until the envirowhackos got involved?


125 posted on 07/27/2005 4:04:14 PM PDT by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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To: Txsleuth

Once again, NASA claims over and over that there is no danger, no problems.

And again, NASA is proven wrong.

When do we start hearing about resignations from this organization?


126 posted on 07/27/2005 4:04:49 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: jdm
NASA has been trying to figure this out for the past 2 1/2 years, to no avail.

It is almost unimaginable that NASA wouldn't have adequately addressed the specific problem that destroyed the last shuttle in flight. This is more than an accident or even a failure. The entire organization needs to held accountable.

127 posted on 07/27/2005 4:05:05 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: djf

Cite your source.


128 posted on 07/27/2005 4:05:06 PM PDT by IronMan04
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To: jdm; The Pastor

actually, config goes back to 60s. Until they changed them a few years ago, Shuttle computers were MAG CORE!

They went to Tempest laptops for a while.


130 posted on 07/27/2005 4:05:54 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: TalonDJ
No I am not saying we should be as safe as an airline. I am saying 2% rate of total vehicle destruction is kinda bad.

The loss rate of flying vehicles while they were still experimental in the early 1900s was a lot higher than 2%. The shuttle is still an experimental vehicle. It is not a scheduled airliner and it does not carry paying passengers.

131 posted on 07/27/2005 4:05:56 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: IronMan04

Not a chance. The next generation shuttle won't rely on this primitive technology.


132 posted on 07/27/2005 4:06:02 PM PDT by RightWhale (Substance is essentially the relationship of accidents to itself)
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To: jdm
HOUSTON, United States (AFP) - NASA said it was grounding the US space shuttle fleet after a large piece of foam insulation broke off from the fuel tank of the Discovery shuttle on liftoff.
 
I'm not a NASA hater but it seems silly to me refer to the only other one as "the US Space Shuttle Fleet." My wife and I have two cars but I can't recall ever refering to them as a "fleet."
 
 
 


133 posted on 07/27/2005 4:06:03 PM PDT by azcap
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To: Normal4me

Hey, the Atlas 5 was one azz kicking machine!


134 posted on 07/27/2005 4:06:06 PM PDT by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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To: MindBender26

Why use the phrase "grounded"? It's not like they are planning more launches while Discovery is up there! It would be far better from a p.r. perspective to say that they are concerned about this, and that their only priority now is to return the crew safely home, and then once it is on the ground, THEN AND ONLY THEN do you announce you are "grounding" the fleet. Sheesh!

The families of those astronauts must feel unbelievably freaked out right now.


135 posted on 07/27/2005 4:06:11 PM PDT by arbusto99
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To: djf

UNK


136 posted on 07/27/2005 4:06:27 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: FreedomCalls

"YOU WERE 100% FO SHIZZLE THEY WOULD BE NO FOAM DISPLACEMENT IN THE BOOST PHASE!"


137 posted on 07/27/2005 4:06:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: Normal4me

"vacuum tubes"

Still the best for home audio!


138 posted on 07/27/2005 4:06:45 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Choose life!)
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To: Halls
But what does this mean, they are grounded?

I don't see the big deal. It means they know they have a problem and that they can't fly anymore until they solve it. They are trying to be transparent as they do so.

They will solve this and continue flying, just wait.

139 posted on 07/27/2005 4:06:59 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: jdm

LMAO, are they serious? We've talked about the reformulation of the foam for years here at Free Republic. I'm certainly no expert on the subject, but it's been pretty well acknolwedge the new "ENVIRONMENT FRIENDLY" version sucks, or perhaps more accurately doesn't to the surface of the fuel tanks. NASA is aware of problem with the foam, "AREN'T THEY?"

Those of you who thought I was being too critical of NASA. What do you have to say now?

This shuttle went up unsafe. They are lucky there wasn't another serious strike.

I remain concerned if NASA is capable of assessing the risk factors involved with the shuttle, and flying it safely.

There's nothing I'd like better than to have the shuttle flying safely. It's become rather clear that either the equipment or the minds at NASA can't pull that off any longer.


140 posted on 07/27/2005 4:07:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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