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Blasts kill 83 in Egypt (Europe struggles to blame Iraq/Bush/Blair for this one)
Reuters UK ^ | Jul 23, 2005 | Tom Perry

Posted on 07/23/2005 4:09:43 AM PDT by rabair

Blasts kill 83 in Egyptian Red Sea resort Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:37 AM BST

By Tom Perry

SHARM EL-SHEIKH, Egypt (Reuters) - At least 83 people were killed and 200 injured when car bombs ripped through markets and hotels in the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh on Saturday in the worst attack in Egypt since 1981.

Shaken European tourists spoke of mass panic and hysteria as people fled the carnage in the early hours, with bodies strewn across the roads, people screaming and sirens wailing.

The regional governor said two car bombs and possibly a suitcase bomb had rocked the resort, popular with divers and European holidaymakers.

One blast tore the front off the Ghazala Gardens Hotel in Naama Bay, the site of most of the resort's luxury hotels. People were feared trapped in the rubble of the lobby.

A car broke into the hotel compound and exploded in front of the building, South Sinai Governor Mustafa Afifi said.

A senior security source in Sharm el-Sheikh said 83 people were killed and 23 people were in critical condition, from among 35 casualties taken to Cairo for treatment.

Most of the victims were Egyptians but the Tourism Minsirty spokeswoman said Seven non-Egyptians were dead, including a Czech and an Italian, and 20 were injured.

The injured foreigners were nine Italians, five Saudis, three Britons, a Russian, a Ukrainian and an Israeli Arab, spokesman Hala el-Khatib told reporters. But the British Foreign Office in London said that eight Britons were injured.

A group claiming links to the al Qaeda organisation said it carried out the bombings in retaliation for "crimes committed against Muslims", according to an Internet statement.

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(Excerpt) Read more at today.reuters.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bombing; deathtoll; egypt; globaljihad; islam; justifyingterrorism; muslims; sharmelsheikh; terrorism; terrorist
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To: Bon mots

HA HA!!


61 posted on 07/23/2005 6:56:15 AM PDT by eyespysomething ("Old Hippies" re-living their activist youth - the first time nostalgia had a body count attached.)
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To: rabair

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."

Winston Churchill


62 posted on 07/23/2005 7:00:42 AM PDT by need_a_screen_name
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To: patriciaruth
Or we could pull the Egyptains out of Egypt

Yes! End the occupation!!

63 posted on 07/23/2005 7:02:32 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win (Don't let them take things away from you on behalf of the public good!)
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To: rabair

The more they practice, the better they get.


64 posted on 07/23/2005 7:03:43 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: sgtbono2002
If the cowardly Europeans had shown a United front agains terrorists when this thing started it would be over now.

They didnt, They showed themselves to be ripe for terrorism and the terrorists have ripened. They have no one to blame but their cowardly leaders. You show a bully you are scared and that bully will have his fun with you.

Wrongo sarge.

We lost the support of historic allies when we retreated from Afganistan when we were on bin Laden's back porch, We had almost universal support when we were actively pursuing those that had shamefully invaded us on 9/11. We lost that support when we dumbfoundingly disengaged and insanely resumed operation Desert Sand.

I submit the following:
Shortly after Sept. 11, he (Chancellor Gerhard Schröder) pledged unconditional political and military support for the Bush administration's war on terror. He cited both Germany's commitment to the United States and its national interest in combating terrorism, knowing that for the first time since World War II the country could be entering a war.

Two months later, when the call came from Washington requesting specific German assistance—a deployment of 3,900 troops—Schröder did not flinch. He took it to the parliament in Berlin and won approval for the deployment after a tense political struggle, in which he tied the issue to a vote of confidence in his government and thus pushed his agenda through in a show of strength.

Eric Jansson ... World Press Review correspondent ... Berlin ... November 25, 2001

Just look at all the "progress" we've made since that fateful decision to invade Iraq! Show an ally you've gone bonkers and watch how fast he abandons you!

65 posted on 07/23/2005 7:04:05 AM PDT by iconoclast ( "Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive")
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To: Grampa Dave

From
http://www.news24.com/News24/Africa/News/0,,2-11-1447_1742426,00.html

The group, calling itself the Al Qaeda Organisation in the Levant and Egypt, made the claim in a statement posted on an Islamic website. Its authenticity could not be verified.

"The mujahedeen... have dealt a devastating blow to the Crusaders and the Zionists and the infidel Egyptian regime in Sharm el-Sheikh," it said.

The attackers targeted the Ghazala Gardens hotel in Naama Bay and the old market of Sharm el-Sheikh, which the statement said was "crowded with Zionist invaders and Crusaders".

"This operation came as part of the response against the global evil powers which are spilling the blood of Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Chechnya," it said.


66 posted on 07/23/2005 7:04:50 AM PDT by bwteim
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To: rabair

From Matthew 7:

A Tree and Its Fruit
15"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' 23Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'


67 posted on 07/23/2005 7:07:23 AM PDT by keats5
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To: dynoman

history lesson

and admittedly, not a very good one. from my somewhat jumbled memory.

around the turn of the 20th century there was a fundamentalist movement centered in Egypt and a famous radical cleric. their objective was to impose their own version of Islam on the government and affairs of that nation, and the others throughout the Arab World. this movement had a lot of support and they engaged in various violent actions against the government.

in the complicated formula for the affairs of the region, the British realized that the radicals in Egypt were a threat to their desires to build and maintain the Suez Canal.

one of the reasons that the British (in their on/off) decision to allow/promote the Jewish resettlement of Palestine was to provide a Western/secular foothold in the western mediterranian area.

this policy was implemented, the canal was built, the state of Israel was created and maintained, and the more radical Arabs have been pissed off about it ever since.

this issue will never die. there will always be this sub-context to any Western presence. but what is to me/us a subcontext, long lost to our memories, is to many in the region a really BIG THING....and a rallying point for resistance to modification of their culture and religion.


68 posted on 07/23/2005 7:09:13 AM PDT by kralcmot (my tagline died with Terri)
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To: bwteim

Thanks for the link:

The group, calling itself the Al-Qaeda Organisation in the Levant and Egypt, claimed in an Internet statement the bombings in the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh that killed at least 83 people, including foreigners.

"This operation came as part of the response against the global evil powers which are spilling the blood of Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine and Chechnya," it said in an Islamic website statement, whose authenticity could not be verified.


69 posted on 07/23/2005 7:09:25 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: jeffers

Good post ... a torch in a cave. ;-)


70 posted on 07/23/2005 7:10:38 AM PDT by iconoclast ( "Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive")
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To: iconoclast; Peach; Grampa Dave

Your thesis ignores a good many facts. It just so happens we were right to go into Iraq--Saddam had been supporting terrorists for years, including some of the ones responsible for 9/11. This has been documented both in the 9/11 report and in Stephen Hayes' book, "The Connection." (Also subsequent articles, many posted on Free Republic.)

Even without that particular evidence, the most cursory of glances at Grampa Dave's list of terrorist attacks should make it apparent to even the most dense of Freepers that they were on the attack long before we ever entered Iraq--even before the first Gulf war.

No, I lay the blame squarely where it belongs: in the laps of those who think they must kill anyone who is not a Muslim until they achieve their goal of an Islamic world.

People like you only help them.


71 posted on 07/23/2005 7:13:30 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: Grampa Dave

Many thanks for this. Now I have a "reference guide" to answer those who claim that all Middle East terrorism started after the U.S. invasion of Iraq.


72 posted on 07/23/2005 7:14:41 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: iconoclast

If you think Free Republic is such a dark, ignorant place (comapred to you, no doubt), then why are you here?


73 posted on 07/23/2005 7:15:34 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: Atlantic Bridge
In the broader sense it is nothing new, that the terror in London was triggered by the war in Iraq. Although there was always a disposition for terror inside the islamic part of the society in western Europe, there was relative "peace" before the war. Tony Blair was well aware that he opended a pandora's box, when he joined into the coalition. It was was more important to solve the problem in Iraq than to keep the fragile peace between Britain and a few crazy morons. This was a reasonable decision. Of course there is to pay a bitter price now (it must be extremely sick to loose a loved one to those a**holes), but believe me, the Brits are going to make the Islamists paying a higher one. To say this, is not disturbing, it is the plain truth.

I guess all the Islamic terror attacks that ocurred before Iraq were just for sport, eh? Get real, this is not because of Iraq, it is merely a pretense.

74 posted on 07/23/2005 7:15:36 AM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
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To: jeffers
Ayman hates the Egyptian government about as much as Osama hates the Saudi royal family, hence yesterday's attack in Egypt.

Possibly, but this may be a twofer for Ayman; a lot of Brits vacation there -- our local rag quoted two vacationing British cops in today's story, for example, Blair has vacationed there, and Britain is now reporting seven Brits were injured. The message may be "you're not safe at home, and you're not safe abroad -- surrender to our demands."

75 posted on 07/23/2005 7:15:47 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: rabair

The title of this thread should read

"MUSLIMS STRIKE AGAIN"


76 posted on 07/23/2005 7:16:40 AM PDT by silentknight
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

"Many thanks for this. Now I have a "reference guide" to answer those who claim that all Middle East terrorism started after the U.S. invasion of Iraq."

I used it as reference guide with a neighbor liberal thug who liked to verbally attack me and President Bush if I walked by his home. He had no response then or since then.

Since then, I just grin at him as I walk past him, and he turns away. He has no answer/rebuttal to this list.


77 posted on 07/23/2005 7:17:10 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: jeffers

Thanks for this post. I've never read these details and they add more than a little nuance to OBL and his minions.


78 posted on 07/23/2005 7:17:11 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: rabair

I'm sick and tired of all the stupid whining that, "It's all because of the Iraq war". People who make that argument aren't worth talking to. We have a big job to do to defeat these Islmo-fascists. Let's get on with it, and forget about the inane whining of leftists. These people are contributing nothing to even their own defense, let alone that of the rest of us.


79 posted on 07/23/2005 7:17:44 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: iconoclast

Ahem. You seem to be ignoring that the Senate Intelligence Report states that it is likely, based on multiple intelligence reports, that some of the 9/11 hijackers trained at Salmon Pak in Iraq.

Add to that the fact that Iraq had an alliance with Al Qaeda for weapons development and attacks against the West, and you have an explosive situation if not handled properly.

I'm rather thinking that you may well be one of those freepers who would be complaining if we get attacked again that we didn't handle Iraq in a timely fashion.


80 posted on 07/23/2005 7:20:21 AM PDT by Peach
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