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BBC: Man shot dead by police on Tube ~~ Witness sees a bomb belt
BBC ^ | Friday, 22 July, 2005, 14:25 GMT 15:25 UK | staff

Posted on 07/22/2005 7:55:15 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Man shot dead by police on Tube

Stockwell Tube station

Police have cordoned off a 200-metre area around the station

A man has been shot dead by police at Stockwell Tube station in south London, as officers hunt four bombing suspects.

Police are also searching an address in London's Harrow Road. Resident Patricia Osbourne said she heard six shots.

Scotland Yard said the raid was one of several taking place in the city after Thursday's attempted bombings.

BBC correspondent Danny Shaw said there were unconfirmed reports police had said the man shot at Stockwell was the Oval bomb suspect.

Passenger Mark Whitby told BBC News he had seen a man of Asian appearance shot five times by "plain-clothes police officers" with a handgun.

They pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him

Witness Mark Whitby


BBC correspondent Graham Satchell, at the Harrow Road incident, said the focus of the large police presence appeared to be an internet cafe.

As well as armed officers in body armour, there were about seven police vehicles and an ambulance, he said.

People in the area were "nervous", he added.

Station evacuated

Police have cordoned off a 200-metre area around Stockwell station. The incident followed four attempted bombings in the capital on Thursday at Oval, Warren Street, Shepherd's Bush stations and on a bus in Shoreditch in east London.

Passengers were evacuated from Stockwell station, which is on the Northern Line and Victoria Line.

Teams of forensic officers are working inside the station, and police helicopters are hovering overhead.

Services on the Victoria and Northern lines were suspended following a request by the police.

Mr Whitby, told BBC News: "I was sitting on the train reading my paper.

"I heard a load of noise, people saying, 'Get out, get down!'

"I saw an Asian guy run onto the train hotly pursued by three plain-clothes police officers.

'Bomb belt'

"One of them was carrying a black handgun - it looked like an automatic - they pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him.

"I saw the gun being fired five times into the guy - he is dead," he said.

BBC Home affairs correspondent Margaret Gilmore said officers had challenged a known suspect they had been following.

"He ran, they followed him. They say they gave him a warning, they then shot him.

"They brought in the air ambulance. They did everything they can to revive him. He died at the scene."

Police had warned they would shoot to kill if they believed somebody to be a threat, she added.

BBC crime correspondent Neil Bennett said the suspect was being followed as a result of CCTV footage seen by officers investigating Thursday's explosions.

It's vital the police give a statement about what occurred and explain why the man was shot dead


Muslim Council of Britain

The Muslim Council of Britain said Muslims were concerned about a possible "shoot to kill" policy.

Spokesman Inayat Bunglawala said: "There may well be reasons why the police felt it necessary to unload five shots into the man and shoot him dead, but they need to make those reasons clear.

"It's vital the police give a statement about what occurred and explain why the man was shot dead."

Another passenger on the train, Anthony Larkin, told BBC News the man had been wearing a "bomb belt with wires coming out".

"I've seen these police officers shouting, 'Get down, get down!', and I've seen this guy who appears to have a bomb belt and wires coming out.

"People were panicking and I heard shots being fired."

The man burst in through the door to my right and grabbed hold of the pole and a person by the glass partition near the door

Passenger Dan Copeland

Former Flying Squad officer, John O'Connor, told BBC News: "The man shot must either be one of the bombers or a potential suicide bomber."

Bombers "don't always carry sports bags" and the man could easily have been wearing a bomb belt, he added.

If he had been challenged by police and failed to stop they "have not got a lot of alternative", Mr O'Connor told BBC News.

Officers would be trained to aim for the head as shots to the torso could trigger a hidden explosive device, he added.

Londoner Dan Copeland was in the carriage in which the man was shot.

He told BBC News: "We were sitting for a few minutes on the platform, then we heard shouting from the concourse between the two platforms.

I worry about travelling on public transport. We have just got to get on with life

Commuter


"Then the man burst in through the door to my right and grabbed hold of the pole and a person by the glass partition near the door, diagonally opposite me.

"An officer jumped on the door to my left and screamed, 'Everybody out!'

"People just froze in their seats cowering for a few seconds and then leapt up.

"As I turned out the door onto the platform, I heard four dull bangs.

"I ran past an armed officer who was standing on the platform and ran up the stairs."

The bus driver found a rucksack split open on the top deck



After Thursday's London blasts, the bombers fled when detonators went off, causing small blasts, but failed to detonate the bombs themselves.

A massive hunt is under way for the men. Analysts believe evidence from the four scenes could throw light onto the bomb attacks carried out on 7 July.

The attempted attacks caused travel chaos across the capital, with several lines closed and Tube stations evacuated.

Scotland Yard commissioner Sir Ian Blair said the attacks had been intended to kill people.

1: Witnesses report seeing up to 20 plain clothes police officers chase a man into Stockwell Tube station from the street

2: One person says the man vaulted the automatic ticket barriers as he made his way to the platforms

3: The most direct route is via this escalator or the staircase that sits alongside it

4: After running onto a northbound Northern line train, he is shot dead by police



TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: londonattacked
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"It's vital the police give a statement about what occurred and explain why the man was shot dead."

The rest of the sentence was: "... so we can know how not to tip off police to our intentions to blow up innocent people in the future."

21 posted on 07/22/2005 8:09:27 AM PDT by SittinYonder (America is the Last Beach)
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To: Mikey_1962
So... does he STILL get the virgins?

Honest truth, some say the virgins bit is mistranslated and it's actually RASINS.

22 posted on 07/22/2005 8:09:49 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Rummyfan
Really. All those bystanders and they just let them walk away? I realize the situation must have been chaotic, but found this really disturbing.

Actually, I heard witnesses this morning from London who said that after the guy through the backpack into the train yesterday, everyone shouted to stop him as he ran and several people gave chase but he got away. It was not my impression that everyone just sat around.

23 posted on 07/22/2005 8:09:57 AM PDT by Pete
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To: Mikey_1962
"So... does he STILL get the virgins?"

Not exactly...he gets 72 women who look exactly like Helen Thomas and Hillary Clinton.

24 posted on 07/22/2005 8:10:29 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: areafiftyone

I have heard several people on here have said that, but I have not seen a single source confirm it.

Do you have a link?


25 posted on 07/22/2005 8:10:44 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Pete

Well, you could be right. I'm getting my info from Savage after all. LOL Luv the guy but he is somewhat insane.


26 posted on 07/22/2005 8:11:14 AM PDT by mlbford2 ("Never wrestle with a pig; you can't win, you just get filthy, and the pig loves it...")
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To: areafiftyone
Coflicting reports? The police said before they found NO EXPLOSIVES on the guy?

Maybe the wires and the bomb belt were just PART of the bomb, and somebody else had the explosive component? That's what I'm wondering about this NYC bag-search thing....I hope they're prepared to search for "components" and not just assembled bombs. I mean, didn't McGyver on TV once make a bomb out of a tampon and some lipstick?

27 posted on 07/22/2005 8:11:49 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (There will be no bad talk or loud talk in this place. CB Stubblefield.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
BOLOs for these just issued:









London Police are looking for these persons-of-interest.
28 posted on 07/22/2005 8:12:26 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach


"It's vital the police give a statement about what occurred and explain why the man was shot dead"
Muslim Council of Britain

"It's vital the muslim community give a statement announcing that they will help fight terrorism and denounce terrorists"
GeorgiaDawg

Can anyone tell me why the Muslim Council of Britain is acting like THEY are the victims???


29 posted on 07/22/2005 8:13:45 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg
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To: TomGuy; Eurotwit; areafiftyone

Pretty good pictures....


30 posted on 07/22/2005 8:14:12 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Great! One down .... ???? to go?!!!!!!!


31 posted on 07/22/2005 8:14:58 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The shooting should signal, that, the Brits, are done playing, with these Muslin mongrels......


32 posted on 07/22/2005 8:15:14 AM PDT by thinking
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To: HKaddict
Sounds like a good kill, but would have been better if they got him alive.

True enough -- but if he's dead, he can't pull the bomb trigger.

I think if I were a salamikaze bomb-maker, I'd probably be working on a dead-man switch for cases just like this one. Or maybe a remote detonator (requires an observer nearby).

33 posted on 07/22/2005 8:15:29 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
with wires coming out.....Note to self leave iPod at home ......

Police had warned they would shoot to kill if they believed somebody to be a threat, she added

Good deal at least some of the brits have got the solution right.....

34 posted on 07/22/2005 8:16:29 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: highlander_UW

And almost as tho' they're assuming the guy was a muslim too LOL


35 posted on 07/22/2005 8:17:59 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Baynative

"All these bastards have families -it's time to go get them and play serious"

That may well be one of the things we have to accept. War is Hell so we'd better get on with it & win it as quickly as we can.


36 posted on 07/22/2005 8:18:20 AM PDT by chgomac
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The Muslim Council of Britain said Muslims were concerned about a possible "shoot to kill" policy.

Seesh, Muslims. Shakes head.

37 posted on 07/22/2005 8:20:22 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: Eurotwit
"Do you have a link?"

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1189947,00.html

38 posted on 07/22/2005 8:20:48 AM PDT by Kelly_2000 (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: GeorgiaDawg
Can anyone tell me why the Muslim Council of Britain is acting like THEY are the victims???

Becasue that is standard operating procedure. Whine and moan about mistreatment so the liberal establishment will fawn over you. Facts and truth are irrelevant.

39 posted on 07/22/2005 8:20:56 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: TomGuy

London Police are looking for these persons-of-interest

Gee, four white guys that look like, let me see, Swedes, Irish, oh yes, maybe Norwegians? Not! Round up the Middle Easterners and send them packing!


40 posted on 07/22/2005 8:20:56 AM PDT by hardworking (If we can teach a nation to stop smoking surely we can teach a nation to not get pregnant.)
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