Posted on 07/22/2005 7:55:15 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
A man has been shot dead by police at Stockwell Tube station in south London, as officers hunt four bombing suspects. Police are also searching an address in London's Harrow Road. Resident Patricia Osbourne said she heard six shots.
Scotland Yard said the raid was one of several taking place in the city after Thursday's attempted bombings. BBC correspondent Danny Shaw said there were unconfirmed reports police had said the man shot at Stockwell was the Oval bomb suspect.
Passenger Mark Whitby told BBC News he had seen a man of Asian appearance shot five times by "plain-clothes police officers" with a handgun.
BBC correspondent Graham Satchell, at the Harrow Road incident, said the focus of the large police presence appeared to be an internet cafe. As well as armed officers in body armour, there were about seven police vehicles and an ambulance, he said. People in the area were "nervous", he added. Station evacuated Police have cordoned off a 200-metre area around Stockwell station. The incident followed four attempted bombings in the capital on Thursday at Oval, Warren Street, Shepherd's Bush stations and on a bus in Shoreditch in east London.
Passengers were evacuated from Stockwell station, which is on the Northern Line and Victoria Line. Teams of forensic officers are working inside the station, and police helicopters are hovering overhead. Services on the Victoria and Northern lines were suspended following a request by the police. Mr Whitby, told BBC News: "I was sitting on the train reading my paper. "I heard a load of noise, people saying, 'Get out, get down!'
"I saw an Asian guy run onto the train hotly pursued by three plain-clothes police officers. 'Bomb belt'
"One of them was carrying a black handgun - it looked like an automatic - they pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him. "I saw the gun being fired five times into the guy - he is dead," he said.
BBC Home affairs correspondent Margaret Gilmore said officers had challenged a known suspect they had been following. "He ran, they followed him. They say they gave him a warning, they then shot him. "They brought in the air ambulance. They did everything they can to revive him. He died at the scene." Police had warned they would shoot to kill if they believed somebody to be a threat, she added. BBC crime correspondent Neil Bennett said the suspect was being followed as a result of CCTV footage seen by officers investigating Thursday's explosions.
The Muslim Council of Britain said Muslims were concerned about a possible "shoot to kill" policy. Spokesman Inayat Bunglawala said: "There may well be reasons why the police felt it necessary to unload five shots into the man and shoot him dead, but they need to make those reasons clear. "It's vital the police give a statement about what occurred and explain why the man was shot dead." Another passenger on the train, Anthony Larkin, told BBC News the man had been wearing a "bomb belt with wires coming out". "I've seen these police officers shouting, 'Get down, get down!', and I've seen this guy who appears to have a bomb belt and wires coming out.
"People were panicking and I heard shots being fired."
The man burst in through the door to my right and grabbed hold of the pole and a person by the glass partition near the door
Former Flying Squad officer, John O'Connor, told BBC News: "The man shot must either be one of the bombers or a potential suicide bomber." Bombers "don't always carry sports bags" and the man could easily have been wearing a bomb belt, he added.
If he had been challenged by police and failed to stop they "have not got a lot of alternative", Mr O'Connor told BBC News. Officers would be trained to aim for the head as shots to the torso could trigger a hidden explosive device, he added. Londoner Dan Copeland was in the carriage in which the man was shot. He told BBC News: "We were sitting for a few minutes on the platform, then we heard shouting from the concourse between the two platforms.
"Then the man burst in through the door to my right and grabbed hold of the pole and a person by the glass partition near the door, diagonally opposite me. "An officer jumped on the door to my left and screamed, 'Everybody out!' "People just froze in their seats cowering for a few seconds and then leapt up. "As I turned out the door onto the platform, I heard four dull bangs. "I ran past an armed officer who was standing on the platform and ran up the stairs."
After Thursday's London blasts, the bombers fled when detonators went off, causing small blasts, but failed to detonate the bombs themselves. A massive hunt is under way for the men. Analysts believe evidence from the four scenes could throw light onto the bomb attacks carried out on 7 July. The attempted attacks caused travel chaos across the capital, with several lines closed and Tube stations evacuated. Scotland Yard commissioner Sir Ian Blair said the attacks had been intended to kill people.
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I don't disagree. The key thing about the SAS method though is the interaction of martial arts and pistolcraft. The concept is to use speed, surprise and hyper-aggressive unarmed combat technique, derived from some of the stuff that site discusses, to dominate and control the terrorist in the midst of a crowd of panicking civilians, get him into a position where you can fire without hitting civilians and then empty a clip into him rapid fire, as close as possible.
Ha. It's so easy to arm-chair quarterback...after the fact. It's all nonsense. Nobody knows what they would do when faced with situations like these, and it's ridiculous to imply that one's politics and/or nationality automatically dictate one's personal courage or even will to live. (Jokes about the French aside, lol).
It's also a case of "it wouldn't happen to me." I know I've often wondered if I would have been brave enough to do what the passengers of the PA flight did. I like to think so, but I can't be sure.
So reliable that the Chief executive had to resign over misrepresenting the facts during the Iraq war?
Yes, he had to go. You can not have biased persons there.
Shoot first, ask questions later.
It's like after 911. They will crawl into their holes for a while. Then slowly they will emerge, ready to do everything in their power to turn England over to the Muslims.
Your account struck a long forgotten incident in London. Not to contradict myself, but now I remember. More years ago than I can count.
A crowd grabbed a child molester and "frog marched him down to the local police station". This is why I remember- frog marched- I stand corrected, but he was grabbed by both arms and legs.
Perhaps molestation is the final last straw for good souls. So it should be.
I pose a simple observation.
According to reports I have read and seen on CNN & FNC - the three cops jumped on and covered this sub-human piece of garbage - to hold him down - prevent his escape - and to also stop him from detonating a bomb and killing many innocent civiian Londoners and tourists on that train -
I believe one report said this slimebag rushed into the car - grabbed a pole and a passenger -
The three English bobbies also covered this son of camel dung like and explosive blanket - shielding the train passengers on that car from any possible - and likely - explosion
These three Brit coppers have huge brass ones and literally jumped on what they thought - was a live grenade Xs 10 -
My tweed hat is off and my respect and admiration go to these three courageous London law enforcement officers!
The spirit of 007 is alive and well in Olde England - except this was not a book or movie -
Taking a wild guess at least one of the three was bloody Scot - probably with some Clan MacLeod/McLeod warrior heritage that comes from the dainty Vikings from Norway and Denmark some 700 years ago -
God bless you three and the brave English citizens who are fighting the second Battle of Britain!
Perhaps interrogations should be carried out by an proper English rugby team - well lubricated with fine UK adult beverages -
America stands with you all to the end....
P.S. - The terrorist bombings today in Egypt have riled my liberal NYC sister - who has traveled to Egypt twice - and has been unable to visit Egypt again for some years - because of danger to tourists -
Between London and Egypt you Islamic nutcase terrorists are annoying many liberals who love to travel abroad and spend a few bucks and take in the sights and history and food -
You are in their sights now - be prepared to meet your end as in "Hannibal and Pork Pig" -
England should issue their response teams with fox hunting horns. The thought of special branch types chasing their prey to the sounds of a hunting horn...
Scavenger buzzards they are!!
Perfect Picture,Smart
Thanks for the ping!
I agree with what you posted until this, "America stands with you all to the end...." England has become an Arab nation due to its immigration laws. That is not yours nor my fault. They will suffer for their mistakes the same way we do.
Correct -
The ol' "peace in our time crap"
But that quick gutsy action on the train would not happen in NYC or DC or LA or Chicago today - Maybe in Texas - Right out of a classic Clint Eastwood - "Dirty Harry" flick
Mayor Bloomberg would cry and apologize - the ACLU and CAIR would sue - Hillary and Schumer would hide and have a Rovian presser -
I think the Home Secretary's "get right or get out" speech in Parliament set the tone -
I bet Londoners have a lot more respect for their Bobbies today -
I wish they had that on videocam - play that sucker on FNC and watch the Brits nail that moron -
FNC said that MI5 and MI6 have sniper and reponse teams shadowing Islamic terrorist suspects now - Well - I guess they do - Kinda like the SAS -
I hope Mayor "Red Ken" Livingston enjoyed it -
One suggestion to the Brits - upgrade from 9mm to Colt .45acp Blue Glaser - goes in like an olive - comes out the size of a softball - you can never have too much gun
"One suggestion to the Brits - upgrade from 9mm to Colt .45acp Blue Glaser - goes in like an olive - comes out the size of a softball - you can never have too much gun."
Parliment would have puppies just thinking a bobbies was carrying a true weapon of offense!
I have just stolen your pig .gif to laugh at every mooslim story where they get what they deserve. Part of this WOT should include ridicule at the preposterous ideations they excuse their actions upon.
haven't seen much about their intent to protect the travelers....good bump.
LOL, that's how I got it!!
I hope Meek saw it as he liked to post the non animated version of it!
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