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Smoke seen in London Train Station.( Explosions reported)

Posted on 07/21/2005 5:19:56 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55

Per foxnews


TOPICS: Breaking News; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; appeasement; binladen; busbombing; london; londonattacked; nashar; pakistan; religionofpeace; suicidebombers; trainbombers; tubeexplosion
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To: Trident/Delta

Where is he now?


461 posted on 07/21/2005 6:19:07 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Aquinasfan
Just curious, what's the difference between a regular cop and a specialist?

By regular cop, I mean your average constable on the beat. His New York counterpart would be issued with a gun but in London that's not the case.

However, every police station has an armoury and cops who are specially trained to use weapons.

462 posted on 07/21/2005 6:19:07 AM PDT by jjbrouwer (Chelsea - kings of England!)
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To: Rutles4Ever
To avoid accidental detonation of the explosives perhaps?

Your guess may be correct as well.

463 posted on 07/21/2005 6:19:13 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: PilloryHillary

They are entering Warren st. station in chem suits.


464 posted on 07/21/2005 6:19:21 AM PDT by PilloryHillary (Many Democrats are not weak Americans. But nearly all weak Americans are Democrats.)
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To: tutstar

What is cordite?


465 posted on 07/21/2005 6:19:28 AM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Stellar Dendrite

"interesting...all i keep hearing is "witnesses saw a *man*"

well what kind of "man" was he....MUSLIM???? "

Possibly - but to be fair to the BBC their witness described the man's ethnicity as 'English' - which is a REALLY UN-PC way of saying white (which made me chuckle).

Chechyan or Bosnian I would speculate if he is white.


466 posted on 07/21/2005 6:19:33 AM PDT by Brit_Guy
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To: Jrabbit

Cordite N is used as a propellant in aircraft gun ammunition. It actually contains three main explosive components. These components are nitroguanidine, nitrocellulose, and nitroglycerin. Cordite N is very cool burning, with little smoke and no flash, and has no flash, and has a higher velocity or burning rate than Ballistite.


467 posted on 07/21/2005 6:19:36 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (I am the Keymaster. Are you the Gatekeeper?)
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To: PilloryHillary

Could just be a precaution based reports of "sour smell".


468 posted on 07/21/2005 6:19:38 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Kelly_2000

Kel, sounds like they will be on red alert in hospital right now.


469 posted on 07/21/2005 6:19:42 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsch"....... "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: Junior_G

They said armed security guards are entering a hospital.


471 posted on 07/21/2005 6:19:44 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: Peach

Oh God.


472 posted on 07/21/2005 6:19:49 AM PDT by newconhere
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To: PilloryHillary
SKY: Chem-suited men entering tube station. that's not good

It's normal. They wouldn't enter the station without protection, just in case.

473 posted on 07/21/2005 6:19:52 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: ConservativeMan55; Splatter; Dog; Cindy; backhoe; piasa; Shermy; dixiechick2000; SAMWolf; ...

Last night there was a very interesting thread posted by Splatter about one of the leaders of the first London Bomber and his connections with Jihadists in Portland, Oregon and Seattle:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1447222/posts?page=1,20

London bomb suspect linked to Ore. terror camp (terrorists on the left coast)
kgw.com ^ | Wednesday, July 20, 2005 | By kgw.com, NBC and CNN Staff (Spaltter)


Posted on 07/20/2005 6:41:28 PM PDT by Splatter


WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Investigators probing the London terror bombings are focusing on an elusive British Muslim suspect who is connected to a previous plot to set up a terrorist training camp in rural southern Oregon, according to U.S. counterterrorism officials.

Officials told both NBC News and CNN Wednesday that Haroon Rashid Aswat, believed to be a mastermind of the London bombings, is the same British-born Muslim of Indian descent who scouted a Bly, Oregon ranch to set up a terror camp.

These officials said Aswat, a Pakistani national being sought for questioning as a person of interest by British authorities, was among three unindicted co-conspirators in the Oregon incident.

U.S. officials said a 2002 indictment in the Bly case links Aswat directly to Abu Hamza al-Masri, a fiery, one-eyed radical cleric from a London mosque who is now on trial in Britain for possessing al-Qaida literature and inciting the killing of Jews and other non-Muslims.

"I think this just gives us a glimpse into what might be happening inside the United States," said retired Air Force Lt. Col. Rick Francona, an NBC News terrorism expert. "We were able to uncover one operation — how many others are out there?"

"What's very scary is not only can they travel very easily through Europe, they could travel very easily to the United States because of their British citizenship," added retired Portland State University professer Gary Perlstein, a KGW terrorism expert.

The documents reveal Aswat worked with a Seattle man, James Ujaama, who pleaded guilty in 2003 to a charge of providing support to the Taliban for his role in trying to set up the "jihad training camp." Ujaama is now cooperating with federal prosecutors.

The southern Oregon ranch that may have been scouted as a potential terrorist training camp. (KGW Photo)

Court documents in the Ujaama case said a conspirator, whom U.S. officials identified as Aswat, arrived in New York City in November 1999 on Abu Hamza's orders. He made his way to Oregon, according to the documents, "for the purpose of evaluating the Bly property as a jihad training camp."

In the indictment, prosecutors also alleged the conspirators "met potential candidates for jihad training ... established security for the Bly property ... and they and others participated in firearms training and viewed a video recording on the subject of improvised poisons."

The documents also said Aswat, along with another conspirator, lived in Seattle in early 2000 and "expounded on the teachings" of Abu Hamza.

Aswat, in his early 30s, has family that lives in Leeds in northern England, where three of the four suspected London suicide bombers resided. At his family's house, neighbors said they haven't seen Aswat in nearly 10 years.

Aswat's believed to be hiding out in Pakistan, where government officials said he wasn't in custody and remained at large as of Wednesday night.


474 posted on 07/21/2005 6:19:53 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The MSM is trying to make us believe, Judith Miller is in jail to protect Karl Rove!)
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To: PilloryHillary

Just a precautionary measure, I hope.


475 posted on 07/21/2005 6:19:58 AM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: PilloryHillary

Hopefully they are just going in there for pre-caution. Just to make sure there's no problem re: chemicals.


476 posted on 07/21/2005 6:19:59 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Peach
Sulfur smells like eggs, doesn't it? I don't know that I'd describe that as a sour smell. But maybe in an emergency situation, witnesess don't choose the correct descriptive words.

Pure sulphur does smell sour.
What you describe is sulphur dioxide. No telling what that animal had in the backpack. Perhaps he just skipped the "mix thoroughly" part...

477 posted on 07/21/2005 6:20:00 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: Dashing Dasher; wazoo1031
Amalfi, Sardinia, Tuscany....

I lived in Italy for three years and have been all around that region and love it. I went back to Italy last September on a vacation.

I have a sister in England and I'm meeting a friend from the States there as well. Everything's booked and no tinhorn terrorist is going to stop us. ;-)

I've never let those people make me adjust my plans out of fear and I'm not going to start now.

478 posted on 07/21/2005 6:20:03 AM PDT by Allegra (Less Than 30 Days Until R&R - W'HOOOO!)
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To: Jrabbit

Cordite N is used as a propellant in aircraft gun ammunition. It actually contains three main explosive components. These components are nitroguanidine, nitrocellulose, and nitroglycerin. Cordite N is very cool burning, with little smoke and no flash, and has no flash, and has a higher velocity or burning rate than Ballistite.


479 posted on 07/21/2005 6:20:14 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (I am the Keymaster. Are you the Gatekeeper?)
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To: Peach

People at Warren Street in Chemical protection suits.


480 posted on 07/21/2005 6:20:18 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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