Posted on 07/21/2005 5:19:56 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
Per foxnews
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I'm not sure either but they're pretty good at knowing what they are talking about.
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Yes, that should be interesting. Keep us updated on what is said.
Just reading this thread has made me realize that if the Republican party of the future can work with all the conservative opinions here (which are very different, but still conservative) they'd have a governing majority for a century or more. The way that everyone is in this fourm is amazing, and it leaves me, just a teenger, awed at what a great country this is, and how great it can be in the future. Hope is out there, right now, most of it is sitting behind our computers being the Pajamhedeen. BTW I do love President Bush, but I'm talking about the rest of the party, the RINOs, the Gang of 14 (however many Republicans are in on that), congress and the judcical sector. EVerything is headed in the right direction, and this is the conclusion, a free open exchange of ideas. No one catching anyone on fire, no bombs exploding, and certainly no damned rituals. Except maybe a troll/zot thread. Anyway, thanks for the hope, from conservative teenage America (which is pretty big, but pretty oppressed) to you,Free Republic.
Have I got a girl for you...
I think we need to direct this young conservative to CPAC, or at least YAF (Young Americans for Freedom.)
Well, I have the perfect girl. She's been through a LOT and she is living testement to the War on Terror. One of her best friends died in Iraq back in February. An amazing story. Now I have some conservative friends I've been trying to get onto this website...haha
We have a murderous cult on one side just waiting to attack ... and the PC crowd on the other side telling us to leave them alone.
We are stuck in the middle and it is tough to tell what side is the bigger threat to our continued existence.
I'll take the guys with suicide bombers and guns for a thousand, Alex...
"London Metropolitan Police authority advises all citizens to be on the urgent look out for anything suspicious related to terrorism. It is the duty of citizens to report such suspicious things to the police. To assist the citizens in this duty, we have prepared a list of descriptions for possible suspects related to the various incidents today on the Tube and bus transport system. We ask citizens to be especially vigilant and report the slightest bit of news about individuals who might match these backgrounds and whom demonstrate suspicious activities. They could be Persian, Peruvian, Norwegian, Scottish, Mexican, Finnish, Yoruba, Japanese, Korean, Polish, Canadian. Could be Irish, Indonesian, Australian, Polynesian. Might be Spanish, Czech, Kenyan, or perhaps Dutch, Ukranian, or maybe even Thai, or maybe Papua New Guinea. Please keep on guard for individuals possibly Nicaraguan, or Bulgarian, perhaps Danish, or might be Taiwanese. Keep a look out for Amish, Swiss, and Mongolian. Also keep a stern eye on..... blah...blah...blah...."
I think it's perfectly realistic to accept that Iraq made us a target for the jihadi cult leaders, but that's something every Briton knew when we got involved in the war on terror.
Making sacrifices has never notably been a problem for the average Briton in wartime. During the IRA campaigns all the average member of the public wanted to know was that our leaders and security people were competent and effective, which they generally were. You can ask the widows of a large number of IRA terrorist operators how effective they can be.
The big problem arises if we all start to doubt Tony Blair's judgement over getting the UK involved in Iraq. It would help an awful lot to maintain confidence in his judgement if the situation in Iraq looked like it was being effectively resolved. Right now it looks to me and to most Britons like a shambles. A relative is a WO1 with 20-odd years service. If he tells me that it's a shambles, I have confidence in his military judgement. His guys are doing OK in the shiia south, but he thinks that the sunni triangle is a disaster.
Our consensus over a few bottles at new year was that the only winners given the present situation are Iran and AQ.
In every war, our history shows that we don't mind standing our ground. Pretty much all of our greatest victories resulted from our infantry, a bunch of plowboys and town scruff, hitching up their belt, staring death in the face and being willing to stand their ground just that little bit longer than the infantry of any other nation.
At Waterloo, the First Foot Guards (my father's regiment) springing up from behind the ridge-line as though Wellington had planted dragon's teeth before uttering his famous words, "Stand up Guards! now Maitland, now's your time!"
They were the rock on which Napoleon's Old Guard broke and when they ran, the rest of his huge army (200,000 vs 50,000) also broke and ran.
That bone-deep stubborness in the face of any and all enemies, obviously got quite a lot of them uselessly slaughtered when they were led by idiots, as in the US war of Independence, the first Afghan war, the Crimea, Boer, first and a few shameful episodes in the second world war.
I'm thinking of such brainwaves as: the Charge of the Light Brigade, Spion Kop, Gallipoli, the fall of Singapore and Montgomery's vainglorious disaster, operation Market Garden.
History also shows that we do want to know that our leaders are competent. We've had our share of military nincompoops. Our shamefully useless generals Elphinstone, Buller, Raglan et al, show us that denial is very bad sign in a wartime leader. Our best warriors: Slim, Hoare, Mayne, Allenby, Wingate, Lawrence, Fisher, Hope Grant, Campbell, Brooke, Wellington, Nelson, Cochrane, Broke, Seymour, Riou, Marlbourgh, Cromwell, Grenville, Drake and our greatest war leaders like William I & III, Edward I, III & IV, Henry I, IV & V, Elizabeth I and Churchill were cynical, flexible, ruthlessly pragmatic and extremely realistic.
Those are the standards by which we judge our war leaders.
It bothers me that he's so vehment in denying that there is any causal connection, even though its a secondary cause in the sense we were discussing above. It's one of many things that might radicalise a muslim kid, but it's the brainwashing by hardened terrorist 'cult leaders' that's the indispensable factor in making hothead kids into bombers.
Yeah, at least with the jihad posse you know where they stand ... they are very upfront about their mission.
You are not "just a teenager," you are indeed a perceptive young man who I hope has some influence on his peers. Or, is at least representative of those of the same age. As I approach my senior years (though some think I am already there), I recognize much of my future life will be in the hands of your generation. Comments like yours make me rest a bit easier.
Thank you for speaking out and letting us know your values are the same, and you appreciate the greatness of our country. God Bless you, and God Bless America. With all its faults, it is still the greatest nation. Congratulations, edmond I know many others are glad to hear from you!
Your still trying to put words in my mouth, I never implied or said any innocent bystanders should be punished period. Again stop being emotional and start debating the facts not semantics.
"we're taking it to a whole new level."
No you are it's called conflating as I said stop putting words in my mouth it's childish
I know it's shocking isn't it :-(
Kelly, I have been out for a while. Did you reach/hear from your friend in the University Hospital?
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