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New Scientific Evidence Convinces Over 400 Scientists That Darwinian Evolution is Deficient
Discovery.org ^ | 7/18/05 | Staff

Posted on 07/20/2005 9:13:07 AM PDT by Michael_Michaelangelo

SEATTLE — More than 400 scientists have signed onto a growing list from all disciplines who are “skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life.”

“Darwin’s theory of evolution is the great white elephant of contemporary thought,” said Dr. David Berlinski, a mathematician and philosopher of science with Discovery Institute’s Center for Science and Culture (CSC). “It is large, almost completely useless, and the object of superstitious awe.”

Discovery Institute first published its Statement of Dissent from Darwin in 2001 and a direct challenge to statements made in PBS’ “Evolution” series that no scientists disagreed with Darwinian evolution.

“The fact is that a significant number of scientists are extremely skeptical that Darwinian evolution can explain the origins of life,” said Dr. John G. West, associate director of the CSC. “We expect that as scientists engage in the wider debate over materialist evolutionary theories, this list will continue to grow, and grow at an even more rapid pace than we’ve seen this past year.”

In the last 90 days, 29 scientists, including eight biologists, have signed the “Scientific Dissent From Darwinism.”. The list includes over 70 biologists total.

The most recent signatories are Lev V. Beloussov and Vladimir L. Voeikov, two prominent, Russian biologists from Moscow State University. Dr. Voeikov is a professor of bioorganic chemistry and Dr. Beloussov is a professor of embryology and Honorary Professor at Moscow State University; both are members of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences.

“The ideology and philosophy of neo-Darwinism which is sold by its adepts as a scientific theoretical foundation of biology seriously hampers the development of science and hides from students the field’s real problems,” said Professor Voeikov.

“Lately in the media there’s been a lot of talk about science versus religion,” said West. “But such talk is misleading. This list is a witness to the growing group of scientists who challenge Darwinian theory on scientific grounds.”

Other prominent biologists who have signed the list include evolutionary biologist and textbook author Dr. Stanley Salthe, Dr. Richard von Sternberg an evolutionary biologist at the Smithsonian Institution and the National Institutes of Health’s National Center for Biotechnology Information, and Giuseppe Sermonti, Editor of Rivista di Biologia / Biology Forum. The list also includes scientists from Princeton, Cornell, UC Berkeley, UCLA, Ohio State University, Purdue and University of Washington among others.


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To: indcons
Name-calling is immature. A lot of people believe evolutionists are "wacko". So what?
81 posted on 07/20/2005 9:49:17 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: eastsider
SO we go back to the evolutionary straw man argument that its either Sunday school creationism or evolution. LOL how sad.
82 posted on 07/20/2005 9:49:34 AM PDT by blackfarm (blackfamily5)
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To: blackfarm

What should I be calling them, if not creationist scientists? Darwinian-dissenter scientists?

What a pantload.


83 posted on 07/20/2005 9:50:07 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: mlc9852
.......you are just one person and really not that important.........

Yes, I understand you perfectly: The Individual is Nothing, The Collective is Everything.

Correct, Comrade?

84 posted on 07/20/2005 9:50:23 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!)
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To: blackfarm
No. Darwinian evolution through natural selection can be demonstrated at the cellular level, and biochemical (i.e. Molecular Biology, my field of expertise) data correlates with the theory of natural selection and common descent derived from the fossil record BRILLIANTLY.

Easy to claim. Harder to provide data for.
85 posted on 07/20/2005 9:50:27 AM PDT by Mylo ("Those without a sword should sell their cloak and buy one" Jesus of Nazareth)
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To: Mylo

And... are they still fruit flys?


86 posted on 07/20/2005 9:50:49 AM PDT by MacDorcha (In Theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.)
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

That settles it then, doesn't it? Life on this Earth was created by the god Bain'Ofloggle. The Universe as we know it is really a subuniverse off of the "main universe", created when Bain'O ate some beans and farted this universe into existence. Our universe has all the properties of this main universe, whose laws and rules were written by a guy named Ken, sitting at an old IBM Selectric typewriter powered by a looong extension cord, in the back of his rusted out Chevy Van, sipping Milwaukees Best beer.


87 posted on 07/20/2005 9:51:41 AM PDT by Paradox (Its a good thing that even when you dismiss the existence of God, he doesn't dismiss you.)
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To: DoctorMichael

Exactly. Strength in numbers.


88 posted on 07/20/2005 9:51:48 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: blackfarm
And I'm so familiar with "erereducable complexity" that I know it is irreducible complexity; and that as a hypothesis it is almost void of form or function.
89 posted on 07/20/2005 9:52:19 AM PDT by Mylo ("Those without a sword should sell their cloak and buy one" Jesus of Nazareth)
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To: PatrickHenry
overwhelming number of genuine scientists supporting evolution

A majority belief in a theory does not make it true. In schools they should teach Evolution fully, give all the 'facts' and then teach the ID theory, tell kids those are the two ideas out their, and they can decide. If ID is so stupid, the kids should be bright enough to figure that out.

90 posted on 07/20/2005 9:52:53 AM PDT by Asphalt (Join my NFL ping list! FReepmail me| Since 10/10/04)
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To: MacDorcha

But, neither has been proven to my satisfaction so I don't waste time making arguments for one or the other. Just too many unknowns to make a judgement in my opinion.


91 posted on 07/20/2005 9:53:07 AM PDT by refermech
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To: friendly
400 incompetent scientists. Really? Care to back that up? Pick 5 of these 400, and show us how they are imcompetent.
92 posted on 07/20/2005 9:53:30 AM PDT by golfboy (character is doing what is right, when no one is looking)
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To: DoctorMichael

too bad none of your quotes are worthy of your profile page...you must really try harder


93 posted on 07/20/2005 9:53:51 AM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: MacDorcha
You challenged my statement that Darwinian evolution through natural selection had not been seen in the lab.

You were wrong.

Now you want to parse about "Macro" vs "Micro" evolution. You can have your fish eating a fish with feet on the back of your car; but once you admit that there are fish with feet you've already lost most of the argument.
94 posted on 07/20/2005 9:54:49 AM PDT by Mylo ("Those without a sword should sell their cloak and buy one" Jesus of Nazareth)
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To: neutrality

I would venture to say that the ratio of scientists in 1475 who supported the flat earth theory would be roughly proportional to today's scientists that except evolution.

Just because the current numbers support one theory over another, is not proof of correctness.


95 posted on 07/20/2005 9:56:32 AM PDT by golfboy (character is doing what is right, when no one is looking)
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To: mlc9852

Nope. As long as someone believes in it. It will live.


96 posted on 07/20/2005 9:56:48 AM PDT by JakeWyld (Modern Man: The Genius who think he came from an ape.)
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To: wallcrawlr
......too bad none of your quotes are worthy of your profile page...you must really try harder.......

Lolololololololololololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gotta run! I've got a scientific experiment (NOT pseudo-scientific) to attend to.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

97 posted on 07/20/2005 9:57:07 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!)
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

But will it be enough to turn the tide of eliminating the wholesale teaching of Darwinism?


98 posted on 07/20/2005 9:57:30 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Asphalt
then teach the ID theory

You mean there is an actual theory? In the scientific sense of a theory, and not merely the biological equivalent of saying "General Relativity in its present form does not completely explain the nature of gravity, ergo gravity is magic"?

99 posted on 07/20/2005 9:57:49 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: Mylo
Oh my its still a freaking fruit fly!!! Why do evolutionist always try to use micro-evolution as evidence for macro-evolution? Turn a fruit fly into something else say a house fly and I'll be impressed. Just admit that you have no lab evidence for evelution by natural selection and you just believe the dogma by faith ;)p>
100 posted on 07/20/2005 9:57:54 AM PDT by blackfarm (blackfamily5)
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