Howard Dean: 'Bible Says Nothing About Gay Marriage'

Juiceenewsdaily ^ | June 23, 2005 | Landon Howell

[Laissez-faire capitalist]

(JND) - As I sat down to read through some scripture Thursday night, I reached for the remote to turn off the already-turned-on TV.

It was then that a sit-down session between Jon Stewart and Howrad Dean on Comedy Central's The Daily Show caught my attention. Howard Dean speaking on national television...it's like watching a car crash in slow-motion.

I couldn't resist.

I set down my Bible, turned on the laptop, and prepared my fingers to record what sound bytes might spew from Dean's mouth. I didn't have to wait for long.

"I have yet to find a reference to gay marriage in the Bible." said Dean...

...I'm not the first, and I won't be the last to say this: "Howard Dean, you sir are a complete idiot."

...In a Q&A session by GotQuestions.org: "The Bible clearly and consistently tells us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27; I Cor. 6:9). God does not create a person with homosexual desires. A person becomes a homosexual because of sin( Rom 1:24-27), and ultimately because of their own choice. A person may be born with a greater susceptibility to homosexuality, just as people are born with a tendency to violence and other sins. That does not excuse the person choosing to sin by giving into their sinful desires. If a person is born with a greater susceptibility to anger/rage, does that make it right for them to give into those desires? Of course not! The same is true for homosexuality."

The Q&A also goes on to say, "To give sanction to homosexual marriage would be to give approval to that lifestyle, which the Bible clearly and consistently condemns as sinful. I believe that Christians should stand firmly against the idea of gay marriage....

[little jeremiah]

You're a pre-pinger.

Odd one. Even supports Michael Jackson. I'd say sleeper - wonder what he'll say next.

[NRA2BFree]

1:26 For this cause God gave them up to vile affections: for even their women exchanged natural relations for that which is against nature:

1:27 And likewise the men, leaving their natural relations with woman, burned in their lust toward one another; men with men doing that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

1:28 And as they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper.

1:29 They were filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, malice; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malevolence; whisperers,

1:30 Slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

1:31 Without understanding, untrustworthy, without natural affection, unmerciful:

That sums up the RAT Party, Homosexuals, and most of Hollywood. There is a day in the not to distant future that they will give account before a Holy God, who will judge them accordingly to the life they have lived on Earth. Woe be unto them.

[little jeremiah]

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

Okay, you're late to the party on this one, but it's about Howeird Dean and everyone can always use a good laugh. Good for the liver.

Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist.

There are a couple of good pictures. Howeird is such a funny guy.

[xzins]

You forgot the verses in which Jesus supports the destruction of Sodom & Gommorrah.... stating that they had great need to repent.

[Zechariah_8_13]

I loved Dr. Demento when I was a kid.

Took a fish head
out to see a movie
didn't have to pay
to get it in!

[DBeers]

You forgot the verses in which Jesus supports the destruction of Sodom & Gommorrah.... stating that they had great need to repent.

Thanks for the assist. Would you like to post them?

[Ohioan]

Before 20 years ago no one in the history of the world would ever have seriously considered gay marriage. Why should the Bible writers have mentioned it?

Why indeed, since they decreed a death by stoning for a homosexual act. Howard Dean has lost any intellectual credibility, if he ever had any.

This penchant, among both "Liberals," and even some self-styled "Conservatives," who choose to cut intellectual corners, to make any kind of verbal argument that seems to serve their purpose of the moment, is absolutely stultifying the quality of American public discourse. Where it ends, who can say. But words do not--cannot change reality. Whether or not there is a little boy present to announce that the Emperor is naked; reality is not dependent upon a verbal announcement.

William Flax

[xzins]

Gen 18:20 And the Lord said, "Because the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grave, 21 I will go down now and see whether they have done altogether according to the outcry against it that has come to Me; and if not, I will know." 22 Then the men turned away from there and went toward Sodom, but Abraham still stood before the Lord.

Genesis 19:4-11
4 Now before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both old and young, all the people from every quarter, surrounded the house. 5 And they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may know them carnally."

Mt 10:15 - Assuredly, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city!

Mt 11:23 - And you, Capernaum, who are exalted to heaven, will be brought down to Hades; for if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.

Mt 11:24 - But I say to you that it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment than for you."

Mr 6:11 - And whoever will not receive you nor hear you, when you depart from there, shake off the dust under your feet as a testimony against them. Assuredly, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city!"

Lu 10:12 - But I say to you that it will be more tolerable in that Day for Sodom than for that city.

Lu 17:29 - but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all.

[DBeers]

Thank you!

I will add it to my apologetic notes

:)

[DaveTesla]

Thanks for posting that.

And to answer the claim that Sodom and Gomorrah was
destroyed only for it's lack of charity.....

Jude 1:7
Likewise, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding
cities, which, in the same manner as they, indulged in
sexual immorality and pursued unnatural lust, serve as an
example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.

[DaveTesla]

Romans 1:
19 For what can be known about God is plain to them,
because God has shown it to them.
20 Ever since the creation of the world his eternal power
and divine nature, invisible though they are, have been
understood and seen through the things he has made. So
they are without excuse;
21 for though they knew God, they did not honor him as God
or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their
thinking, and their senseless minds were darkened.
22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools;
23 and they exchanged the glory of the immortal God for
images resembling a mortal human being or birds or four-
footed animals or reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts
to impurity, to the degrading of their bodies among
themselves,
25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie
and worshiped and served the creature rather than the
Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them up to degrading passions.
Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural,
27 and in the same way also the men, giving up natural
intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one
another. Men committed shameless acts with men and
received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.
28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God
gave them up to a debased mind and to things that should not be done.
29 They were filled with every kind of wickedness, evil,
covetousness, malice. Full of envy, murder, strife,
deceit, craftiness, they are gossips,
30 slanderers, God-haters, F6 insolent, haughty, boastful,
inventors of evil, rebellious toward parents,
31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless.
32 They know God's decree, that those who practice such
things deserve to die—yet they not only do them but even
applaud others who practice them.

[Lazamataz]

Exactly. I have to admit that I have certain urges, urges along the lines of killing people I disagree with, but so far, I've avoided acting on those urges.

You, sir, are a paragon of self-restraint.

I, myself, have gone through three chain-saws this morning alone.

[Jersey Republican Biker Chick]

Some mornings its just not worth chewing through the leather straps.