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1 posted on 07/17/2005 7:31:36 PM PDT by Jean S
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Movin' on up!


2 posted on 07/17/2005 7:33:28 PM PDT by fhayek
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Well according to some experts the father was Jefferson's younger brother. But we will never know for sure.
Then again other than those involved does anyone really care????????


3 posted on 07/17/2005 7:34:48 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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Alas, Lucian Truscott IV is a left wing jerk. Unlike at least one brother that I know, and unlike his father who was a truly great man.

The DNA tests that were performed showed that Sally Hemmings first child was not related to Jefferson, and were unable to show if subsequent children were decendents of Jefferson. Contemporary accounts suggest that subsequent children of Sally Hemmings were likely descended from Randolph Jefferson, Thomas's brother.

In any case, Thomas Jefferson's wife was half sister to Sally Hemmings mother (Mrs. Jefferson and Sally Hemming's common father had a habit of visiting the slave cabins).

So the cousins are just another generation back that what LT IV is telling them. On the other hand, who looks back hundreds of years to find their virtue or blame? That habit belongs more to the English royalty from which we won our independence, rather than the habits of citizens of the republic that we enjoy and safeguard.


6 posted on 07/17/2005 7:40:04 PM PDT by Donald Meaker (You don't drive a car looking through the rear view mirror, but you do practic politics that way.)
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Trust the AP to repeat the lie as established fact in their headline...


7 posted on 07/17/2005 7:40:08 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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"Some Jefferson family members, however, dispute Hemings' family ties to the third president and have refused her descendants membership in the family's exclusive Monticello Association."

Since there is no certain proof I don't believe that we should sully the reputation of a man based on guesses and myths. Those who despise our Republic rejoice in pulling down particularly the early founders with whatever immorality they can dream up in their muddled heads so that men of honor can be dishonored.

My grown daughter and I got into a battle of words with a Monticello docent a few years ago on this issue. They were stating as truth what had not even been tested but had only been imagined. An entire group of people went away believing that lie about a man who should be respected. THAT is immoral.
11 posted on 07/17/2005 8:14:59 PM PDT by Spirited
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Don't you mean the imaginary decendants of Jefferson?

Along the same lines as the decendants of unions between humans and creatures from outer space -- that reunion, of course, would be held in Roswell, New Mexico.


12 posted on 07/17/2005 9:42:21 PM PDT by henderson field
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I am reading Thomas Sowell's book, Black Rednecks and White Liberals. While I dont know yet if this situation is mentioned with Jefferson it can be surmised some 50 pages in that former slaves of men like Jefferson led much better lives then other Southern blacks and the Hemmings case would prove it true also.


18 posted on 07/18/2005 5:31:21 AM PDT by alisasny (We get 4 more years, you get OBAMA...: ))
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Sally was played by Thandie Newton in the movie a few years back.

I would not have blamed Nick Nolte not one bit.


24 posted on 07/18/2005 9:16:32 PM PDT by wardaddy (i love my new discounted GMC dually......proud flyoverlander.....bonnie blue out front!)
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