Posted on 07/13/2005 3:48:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Edited on 07/13/2005 4:11:42 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
With O'Connor's retirement, Rehnquist's possible retirement this summer, and hints of the possibility that Ginsburg and Stevens may be retiring within his term, President Bush has an historic opportunity to reshape the court. This is the opportunity that we've all been fighting for. Most of us are counting on the president filling these vacancies with solid conservatives who respect and abide by the Constitution and we will be sadly disappointed if the president appoints squishy moderates.
Sadly disappointed? Did I say, sadly disappointed? Hell, we'll be up in arms!
But that's just my opinion. Before we go much further in this discussion, I'd like to get yours. Please answer the following FR poll question, then come back and post your opinion.
Assuming a potential supreme court nominee is qualified in all other respects, which of the following concerns should be the deciding factor:
Acceptable to minority party
Maintain balance of court
Must be moderate
Must be mainstream
Gender/race/ethnicity
Friendship/loyalty
Pro life/marriage
Must be originalist
Other
Pass
No, my premise is that there's no way to independently verify its effectiveness. You can't deal with that fact, so you go off making up strawmen. Not a terribly original approach.
You have not made the slightest inquiry into the PA's effeveness yet you dismiss its value as a way to fight terrorists in this country.
You're still having trouble reading. I haven't dismissed its effectiveness. I said that you haven't made the case for its effectiveness. And you still haven't. (Here's a hint: there's no way you can)
Here's a hint of you. Talk to any law enforcement person especially someone who works in the Justice Dept. Promise that you will actually listen. Otherwise just keep on dreaming your little delusions.
You're saying my local beat cop is going to be privy to all this secret information? Somehow I doubt it.
especially someone who works in the Justice Dept.
That's what you call "independent verification"? Bizarre world you live in.
And your world is - off world sounds like it.
Final count (probably misaligned, but the #s are clear enough).
Pass 3.4% 81
Maintain balance of court 1.6% 38
Must be moderate 1.2% 28
Must be mainstream 0.9% 22
Gender/race/ethnicity 0.4% 9
Acceptable to minority party 0.3% 8
Friendship/loyalty 0.2% 4
This slays me. If this poll extrapolates to the actual membership of FR, 7% of the folks here are knuckleheads or RINOs. Now, I know that there are all kinds of folks here, but can there really be that high a percentage?
Wait...wait...I take that question back. After all, at LEAST 93% of the people posting to DU are complete dipshits. It stands to reason some of the folks that belong there are probably posting here, simply because they're so dumb they haven't figured out how to get there yet.
I can visualize them now, in fact:
"I keep typing in DU.com and it takes me to this darn spammer page! WTF are they laughing about? Duuuuuh, well, better get those talking points out from the DNC, and spread the word to my friends on Freerepublic. I gotta look up the words I don't understand first, though...[rifling through dictionary]...yank, yay, AH here it is, Yeaaargh!"
I voted originalist.
Mostly because I feel that it is a super-ordinate construct which would mostly take care of the marriage and life terms if faithfully applied.
Perhaps if I could split my vote, I'd vote 60% originalist and 40% marriage, family, life.
Certainly anything which decreases the Federalist tyranny etc. would be an improvement.
This is perhaps the last huge and crucial battle on the way to utter mayhem and global government tyranny, imho.
Well said.
We the People of the United Nations, in Order to form a more nuanced Union, establish social Justice, insure domestic submission, provide food and shelter for all, promote the penumbra, and secure the emanations of Privacy to the victims of the Patriarchy, do ordain and establish this Constipation for the United Nations of the World.
;)
The proper procedure is in Article V:
"The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate."
lol!
Well said.
After all, if or when the course of society appears to be deviating, from what our roots that made us a great country are, then it's time to reset the carriage to the original margin before we are no longer based upon what the direction was from the origin of the Constitution.
In today's society it is so easy to gray out definitions to the point of obscurity and that is the purpose of the Constitution to maintain the gray within the boundaries of what we are as a nation.
All in all, the writers of the Constitution had their sh!t together and were very thoughtful of past indiscretions when they wrote it.
Until deemed useless and unwarranted, by a handful in the judiciary that were appointed to maintain Constitutional directive, decided to put a hand into making law without being representative via vote to achieve the status to do so.
"Until deemed useless and unwarranted, by a handful in the judiciary that were appointed to maintain Constitutional directive, decided to put a hand into making law without being representative via vote to achieve the status to do so."
I've searched and searched for this article or amendment. I couldn't find it. :(
Is it part of that "living constitution" I keep hearing about?
What else could it be a part of? ; - 0
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