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Wired subscriber gets a jolt [magazine's collection agency: re-subscribe and nobody gets hurt]
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | July 8, 2005

Posted on 07/09/2005 6:27:44 AM PDT by John Jorsett

Wired magazine, the bible of the tech set, may have its finger on the pulse of all that's cool. But the San Francisco publication has been using decidedly uncool tactics when it comes to getting some people to renew their subscriptions.

San Francisco resident Bob McMillan discovered this after choosing to allow his longtime subscription to lapse late last year. "I like the magazine, " he told me. "I just didn't have time to read it anymore."

First came the usual letters warning McMillan, 36, that his subscription was up and that he wouldn't get any more copies of Wired unless he ponied up some cash.

Then Wired's correspondence took a different turn.

In May, McMillan received a letter from North Shore Agency, a leading debt-collection firm. The letter, headed "Please Respond," said he owed $12 for his Wired subscription.

"Our objective is to clear your bill quickly and fairly," it said. "Your payment will reinstate your subscription."

A more assertive letter from North Shore, headed "Request for Payment," arrived last month. "You must realize that we want you to resolve your account in the amount of $12," it said.

Then, the other day, a third North Shore letter arrived, headed "Account Status: Delinquent."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


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1 posted on 07/09/2005 6:27:44 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett

I used to read Wired articles as part of the AvantGo service on my Pocket PC. No more. They're a couple of notches to the left of the LA Times or the Chronic on most things. Half their articles were basically some pimply-faced nerd screaming "oh noes! Teh Patriot Act is teh sux! Bushchimpyhitler! John Ashcroft is teh debil!!!!1!!1one!"

Schadenfreude feels good in the morning.

}:-)4


2 posted on 07/09/2005 6:29:49 AM PDT by Moose4 (Richmond, Virginia--commemorating 140 years of Yankee occupation.)
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To: John Jorsett
Wired magazine, the bible of the tech set, may have its finger on the pulse of all that's cool.

Pfft. It's Rolling Stone for geeks.

3 posted on 07/09/2005 6:30:24 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: John Jorsett

Unbelievable.


4 posted on 07/09/2005 6:32:34 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: John Jorsett

Weird. ;-)


5 posted on 07/09/2005 6:37:22 AM PDT by caspera
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To: John Jorsett

I had a similar but even worse experience with that same North Shore Agency but in relationship (?) with/to DAILY VARIETY (Hollywood trade).

I let an annual, paid subscription lapse (not renewed) for the same reasons -- daily issues unable to read consistently and they stacked up and eventually just got tossed instead of read -- and when I continued to decline the renewal (many times), I started getting the same sort of "notices" from North Shore, PLUS a letter from DAILY VARIETY advising me that if I didn't pay up, they were going to "report (my) delinquency to everyone (I knew/in my profession)."

I wrote them back that mob tactics would not be honored and for them to "be advised" that I'd be sharing their written coercise threat with everyone I knew before they had a chance to share what they knew with everyone I knew...

I never heard from them again but the letter was completely threatening, and very ugly. I've never subscribed to DAILY VARIETY since.


6 posted on 07/09/2005 6:37:39 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: BIRDS

In today's litigious society, this sounds like an opportunity for a class action lawsuit against Wired for extorted funds, mental anguish, the kitchen sink etc.


7 posted on 07/09/2005 6:41:12 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: BIRDS

We should find the personal details of the owners of such a vile company and make them available so that people can complain directly.


8 posted on 07/09/2005 6:53:01 AM PDT by Haru Hara Haruko
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To: Moose4

"I used to read Wired articles as part of the AvantGo service on my Pocket PC. No more. They're a couple of notches to the left of the LA Times or the Chronic on most things."

I couldn't agree with you more. We get our subscription as a gift - otherwise I would cancel. I don't need some lefty nitwit telling me that "filibusters" are now "wired".

Their politics drive their tactics - those of the jack-booted thug.


9 posted on 07/09/2005 6:53:36 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2
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To: Eccl 10:2

They have been sued for this before, including a shareholder named "Jerome Goodman."

We should be able to find him.


10 posted on 07/09/2005 6:58:44 AM PDT by Haru Hara Haruko
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To: John Jorsett

I once subscribed to a magazine - I think it was Good Housekeeping - and I decided not to renew when my subscription was up.

An envelope arrived in the mail with "PAST DUE" emblazoned across the front in large, red block letters. This worried me - had I forgotten to pay an important bill? Were they going to shut off my electricity? Was my credit rating going into the crapper?

The letter enclosed informed me that I was past due to renew my subscription if I wanted to get some special kind of savings on that dastardly magazine.

Not only did I not renew my subscription, I bad-mouthed the magazine to everyone I knew.


11 posted on 07/09/2005 6:59:04 AM PDT by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: Eccl 10:2
If there were awards for one's choice of Moniker the top prize should definitely go to you for using Eccl 10:2 as your Freeper name. That was genius! Pure genius!

Ecclesiastes 10:2 ....'the heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.'

Again, in my book that is genius (and cool). And were there awards you would definitely deserve top honors.

12 posted on 07/09/2005 7:01:03 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: caspera
Weird. ;-)

Not weird. Wired. W-I-R-E-D:^)

13 posted on 07/09/2005 7:13:03 AM PDT by OSHA (I,ll be breaf.)
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To: martin_fierro
Never heard of it. But then, this is what passes for porn in Tijeras.


14 posted on 07/09/2005 7:16:55 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: John Jorsett

Wired: over-rated gibberish... bad writing with annoyingly grandiose graphic design.


15 posted on 07/09/2005 7:18:05 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: John Jorsett
I subscribed for a year to an unnamed magazine that was about POPULAR aspects of SCIENCE. It sucked, honestly. I let it lapse. I got six issues after it expired all with pleading notes telling me I really should re-up. I didn't. Finally I got a phone call from someone who wanted to know why I didn't re-up. I unloaded on the poor guy, an act for which I am truely sorry.

All calls, and mail stopped, however.

16 posted on 07/09/2005 7:27:03 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: spetznaz

Gosh, you are too kind. I give sole credit for that to my wonderful, like-minded wife. She found it.

I use the same handle on www.prudentbear.com, a forum where we discuss the stock market. As you can tell by the name, it was started to discuss reasons for and strategies surrounding the overvaluation of the stock market. It has since devolved to a bunch of Bush-bashers, many of them DU types. My handle, and my ideology, drive them up a wall to no end. Please join me there - I'm outnumbered. But be civil, because you can actually engage them there without getting thrown off like at DU.

BTW, I enjoyed reading about the Spetznaz in the Clancy novels. Weren't they the ones who took pride in distance records for impaling spies with a hand-thrown standard-issue army shovel? I believe the record was fifty-three meters.


17 posted on 07/09/2005 7:27:54 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2
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To: Truth29

Well, sometimes litigation is the way to go, no doubt about that.


18 posted on 07/09/2005 7:41:25 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: Moose4
I'm in the collection business and we aren't allowed to use any threat that isn't part of the collection process. It's a violation and the collector as well as the company may be sued.
On another note, a $12.00 fee can't be added to your credit record. You debt has to be over $100.00 before it can be included in your credit history to mess up your score.
This company gives collectors a bad name... to go with the bad names that we are called each day.
19 posted on 07/09/2005 7:41:46 AM PDT by The Brush
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To: The Brush

I'll bet you have some stories.


20 posted on 07/09/2005 7:43:32 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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