EXCLUSIVE: UK Spy Identifies Groups and People Behind London Bombings

Global Politician ^ | 7/7/2005 | David Storobin Interviewing Glen Jenvey, UK intel operative

[ex-Texan]

Related link here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1438859/posts?page=25#25

[Americanexpat]

When Al Q hit us on 9/11 we went to Afghanistan and rooted them out. Then AL Q went to Iraq to fight us there. They are now all over the world and if these groups aren't AL Q they are sympathizers and commit atrocities with them or in their name.

They can be beaten if we are serious about fighting them. They come to our country as immigrants and work in Mosques and preach their hatred and form their terror cells. Our security forces need to get inside their mosques and places where they meet. We need to gather intelligence on what is preached at these meetings and gather information on any terrorist plans or activity.

One person asked me if I was ready to violate their constitutional rights. If we don't do something our next constitution will be from the Koran and Muslim laws.

We need to deport those people here illegally and if they are here legally and belong to extremists groups, preach sedition, sabotage and murder then they should be imprison or deported.

For those people saying we can not spy on them in their Mosques, I say why not? We spied on right wing groups in their churches. We have spied on right wing groups, left wing groups and environmental extremist groups. We cannot afford another 9/11.

[SittinYonder]

I agree with your assessment of how we should fight this war, but I've seen no evidence that this is how we will fight this war.

I imagine eventually the very things you suggest will become our strategy, but the sooner the better chance we have of achieving victory.

Still, when my wife and I were discussing this the other night and I suggested some of these very same things, she made the point that when we deport them they will simply attack our interests overseas.

Whatever happens, however it shakes out in the end, it's going to be a hell of a fight.

[Sam Gamgee]

Why does it not surprise me that this chap is on the dole. I think it’s time we start arresting those that preach terror. Arrest George Galloway, this bum, Ward Churchill – the whole lot of them. If you give aid and comfort to the enemy by urging him forward you are the enemy. When are we going to take this battle seriously? Stop giving a forum to those that want to destroy us.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Besides being an advocate of killing innocents for over a Decade, this Jihadist was being paid by UK Taxpayers to plot to kill them.

Yes, the Blogs are all over this, Christopher Hitchens says the bombers were likely homegrown, and wretched at Belmont Club comments at length. michelle milkin is good to read too. I pulled some of their comments in last night on this thread:

Massive hunt for London bombers ~~ name of a Moroccan man, Mohamed Guerbouzi appears in blogs

[Sam Gamgee]

They will not be stopped without us holding to account much of the Islamic world. That means we cannot stop at Iraq. We must insert commando units into Iran and the Sudan and remove every last vestige of the leadership of their organizations. The US will likely be even more hated by the world community, but to hell with them. I am serious. A passive defense will not suffice. We must broaden the war and keep it in the middle east. Secondly we need revoke the visas of all visitors from hostile nations. Send them packing. Now.

[ravingnutter]

Jaish e Mohammad wasn't what freaked me out...it was Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad's name. There apparently is a faction of his group in the US headed by someone at the University of Texas, per the link in my previous post. I live in Texas...yikes!

[Valin]

Thanks

[stumpy]

These turkeys need a fuel air explosive dropped on every mosque they preach in while their preaching their hatred. Take them out as well as their followers.

[DTA]

note how the obvious, the role of Bosnia in 911, Madrid and possibly London is not mentioned.


Abu Hamza fought in Bosnia and organized El Mujahedeen brigade.

[mississippi red-neck]

And I don't see anything we can do to stop them.

The first thing you do is realize that you are in a war against a real sophisticated intelligent and determined enemy whose goal is world domination and not some little disorganized groups of religious zealots like they want you to think.

You quit sending divisions of solders,planes and tanks then have them focus on little groups of 10 or 20 men at a time.

The epic center of this war is the middle east. It was born there and it is the central hub from which flows the money, the logistics, and the driving ideology behind it .

You fight it World war II style. You forget PC. You go en mass like we did then and you do what you have to do to conquer and subdue these states and the people in them.

You place them under Marshal law shut down all mosques and schools, disarm the entire population and set about re-educating these people especially those age 12 and down.

Any protests or uprisings should be put down immediately and severely.

You set them up a democratic form of government but you keep absolute control until those that have been brought up under the new system of government are gradually placed in charge.

It worked with Japan and it worked with Germany. Those blueprints are still there waiting for someone with the guts to use them.

This would be the most humane way to do it.

The other way would be to lay waste to the cities , towns, transportation, religious and civil institutions,and all infrastructure and walk away and leave them in the seventh century they so love.

Once you destroy the nest the other insects can be hunted down and eliminated without hope for support or re-enforcement.

These people are no more fanatical or tougher to defeat than the Germans or Japanese.

You have just got to quit fighting them the way they expect and want you to.

The countries of Syria,Iran, Saudi Arabia etc. are fighting a war against Western civilization by proxy.

We can't let the do that if we want to win.

The only question is are there any leaders in the West with guts to do what has to be done.

[Lion in Winter]

Do you remember some plot called Bonjinka or something like that? A Serbian/Bosnian/Croatian word?????

[little jeremiah]

Looks like info of interest to you and the TM thread.

[Cindy]

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1438409/posts


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various FR links & stories | 07-07-05

[Cindy]

Yep.
Thank you Little Jeremiah for noticing.

[AdmSmith]

Sometimes I use bad grammar, but who is saying this

The oath I heard about it from Abu Hamza audio tape I have.

Yoda from Star wars?

[nuconvert]

Lol. It's a relative of Yoda named Glen Jenvey.

[Ciexyz]

We always knew there was some kind of deal between the terrorist organizations and the governments of the nations in which they were residing (UK, France, Germany, etc.) Now we're seeing confirmation in print.

It's very tempting to say, We told you so. Now you're reaping what you sowed.

[AdmSmith]

We always knew there was some kind of deal between the terrorist organizations and the governments of the nations in which they were residing (UK, France, Germany, etc.) Now we're seeing confirmation in print.

Yes, unfortunately, sometimes that is true:

Hamas was initially supported by the Israeli government against PLO, and

Basayev in Chechnya was initially working for Moscow in Abkhazia against Georgia.

But, this Jenvey belongs to the fantasy world of the tabloid papers.

[Ciexyz]

You're saying that the Jenvey story is a fabrication of the tabloids?