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32% of births in N.J. are to immigrant moms
NJ.com The Star Ledger ^ | July 8, 2005 | BRIAN DONOHUE

Posted on 07/08/2005 8:13:38 AM PDT by KeyesPlease

Nearly one-third of all births in New Jersey in 2002 were to immigrant mothers, the most ever, according to a new study that examines how the massive influx of immigrants is transforming communities and posing new challenges for the nation's education and health care systems.

"We've never been here before," said Steve Camarota, director of research for the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington, D.C., think tank that conducted the study. "We're headed into uncharted territory in terms of the size of the second generation."

In New Jersey, immigrants make up 18 percent of the total population and accounted for 31.9 percent of all births in 2002, the study found. By comparison, just 9.6 percent of babies were born to foreign-born mothers in 1970.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; criminalaliens; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; minutemen; openborders; theenemywithin
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To: Paradox

Whenever I come across a well-to-do couple with 0 or 1 kids, I tell them "stop F-ing around and start F-ing, BREED".

For some couples, it's a matter of can't not won't.


101 posted on 07/08/2005 11:22:56 AM PDT by tropical
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To: HiJinx


Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


102 posted on 07/08/2005 11:28:24 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Pride in the USA

Excellent ideas. I hope you see them come to fruition.


103 posted on 07/08/2005 11:29:35 AM PDT by Protagoras (Now that the frog is fully cooked, how would you like it served?)
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To: bayourod

A soft stance on illegals is what politicians do to woo hispanic voters. Hispanics clearly are in favor of massive illegal immigration.


104 posted on 07/08/2005 11:29:44 AM PDT by mthom
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To: Meldrim
Asians and Indians intermarry and assimilate into our European culture. Others don't/won't.

Really? I don't see too many East Indians intermarrying in New York, New Jersey, or even her in liberal Seattle. Meanwhile, half of the middle class/upper class South Americans (and I know many) I know are married to Anglos.

105 posted on 07/08/2005 11:31:08 AM PDT by Clemenza (Where is the Genius of Love?)
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To: KeyesPlease

Cover of today's Businessweek magazine, an Hispanic immigrant, legal or not doesn't matter -- businesses are waking up to their buying power. (Businesses don't give a hoot about anything but the bottom line.) They'll sell the country down the river without batting an eye.


106 posted on 07/08/2005 11:36:46 AM PDT by hershey
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To: mthom
President Bush is advocating a guest worker program for our benefit, not anyone else's. The fact that his reforms would be good for all parties concerned is just an added bonus.
107 posted on 07/08/2005 11:40:06 AM PDT by bayourod (Winning elections is everything in a democracy. Losing is for people unclear on the concept.)
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To: Serenissima Venezia
"But public education isn't what it used to be."

In Texas we have kept immigrants in school longer by offering more vocational education programs and flexible schedules that allow them to continue in school while working.

It seems to be working. Because of our workplace ready labor pool Texas has been ranked the number one state for businesses to start up or relocate to. It also helps keep businesses from having to move overseas or outsource parts of their production to foreign countries.

The people who oppose allowing immigrant children to attend school are ignorant of why we even have public schools to begin with.

108 posted on 07/08/2005 11:48:27 AM PDT by bayourod (Winning elections is everything in a democracy. Losing is for people unclear on the concept.)
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To: tropical
For some couples, it's a matter of can't not won't.

Oh, of course. And the couples I am talking about I know fairly well, I didn't mean to suggest that I say it to strangers or something, that could be a major blunder.

109 posted on 07/08/2005 12:17:10 PM PDT by Paradox (Ipsum Pablum)
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To: bayourod
Who are "them?"

Those that we have to support with our tax dollars

110 posted on 07/08/2005 12:21:34 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Paradox

I thought so. Believe it or not, people do feel it necessary to comment on the childless status of couples they don't know, not realizing that for some it's not a choice we made, it's just the way it worked out.

Boy am I glad I didn't post my first repsonse to your post..... LOL













111 posted on 07/08/2005 12:35:57 PM PDT by tropical
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To: Dane
>"Hmm instead of waiting for a court to change, why don't you get off your duff and say to native born American women that abortion is wrong..."<

-Tell that to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, who is very pro-abortion, and is very popular with Hispanics.

>..."instead of denigrating those immigrants who do not have abortions."<

-And you are misinformed, as to your claim about a low abortion rate among Hispanics:
Hispanics not only the highest birthrate in the U.S.;
they also have the highest abortion rate in the U.S.

Source: "Minority Americans and Abortion", American Life League, May l990.

"Blacks and Hispanics continue to have disproportionately high abortion rates. Blacks make up about 14 percent of women age 15 to 44 but account for 32 percent of abortion. Hispanics make up about 13 percent of that age group but account for 20 percent of abortions. Pregnancy rates are historically higher among minority women."

Source: http://www.concordtx.org/wrldnews/aborrts.htm

112 posted on 07/08/2005 1:32:20 PM PDT by FBD ( "A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." ~Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Clemenza

Again, I can't speak to anecdotes: from what I've read Indians are intermarrying. Incidently, a big part of assimilation is learning and speaking English. Are there many Indians demanding we speak anything other than English? Have there been any Chinese or Indians demanding their holidays be celebrated in the schools?


113 posted on 07/08/2005 1:49:07 PM PDT by Meldrim
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To: Meldrim
1. In the New York City public schools, they do celebrate the Chinese New Year.

2. Indians come to this country already speaking English. The overwhelming majority of Indian immigrants who come here are at least upper middle class status.

3. Come to Brooklyn sometime (Sunset Park especially). You will see plenty of Chinese speaking only Mandarin.

114 posted on 07/08/2005 2:01:37 PM PDT by Clemenza (Where is the Genius of Love?)
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To: Meldrim
Jews didn't intermarry or "act Goyish" (although they did learn English) for several generations. As recently as 1975, over 90% of Jews married other Jews, regardless of whether they were secular or orthodox.

Different groups of people adapt to America in different ways. The children of the Colombian immigrants who lived in my nabe in Miami didn't seem to have any problem speaking English. Then you have old folks in Brighton Beach who can barely speak the language. It all depends on whether you were born here, your level of education before you came here and/or how old you were when you came here.

115 posted on 07/08/2005 2:05:11 PM PDT by Clemenza (Where is the Genius of Love?)
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To: hershey

The fear of Latinos on this site is absolutely laughable. I say this as a non-Hispanic opponent of illegal immigration. Afraid that you will be forced to watch Sabado Gigante?


116 posted on 07/08/2005 2:07:00 PM PDT by Clemenza (Where is the Genius of Love?)
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To: Clemenza

Jews didn't intermarry until recently? Well, then perhaps they were among the others. It is a given that young people will learn the language, unless they are in a bilingual program.


117 posted on 07/08/2005 2:09:06 PM PDT by Meldrim
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To: Meldrim

Bilingual education is asinine. My ex-girlfriend's parents were wise enough, despite haveing seventh grade education themselves, to pull my ex out of the bilingual program at her school in Astoria.


118 posted on 07/08/2005 2:13:40 PM PDT by Clemenza (Where is the Genius of Love?)
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To: Clemenza
"Different groups of people adapt to America in different ways.

Yes, and we ought to target those that adapt easily. For instance, I'd bet Africans of European descent would have no problems integrating. Nor would Australians, New Zealanders, Canadians, or those from the British Isles. Similar culture, same language, etc.

119 posted on 07/08/2005 2:13:58 PM PDT by Meldrim
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To: KeyesPlease

Time to shut down immigration and have a review.


120 posted on 07/08/2005 2:15:13 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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