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United Church of Who?
belief net ^ | 17 June 2005 | Charlotte Hays

Posted on 07/05/2005 12:07:04 PM PDT by Lorianne

It's almost beyond satire: A resolution affirming that Christ is Lord put forward in the United Church of Christ is not expected to pass. "It is highly detrimental to the health and growth of UCC churches and extremely embarrassing for UCC pastors and members to be viewed as non-Christians," the resolution notes, adding that the denomination has long been viewed as being a magnet for "Unitarians Considering Christ."

The Rev. Albert W. Kovacs, who supports the resolution, says that the denomination now has "significant numbers of clergy who don’t believe in God."

The story added:

"A Haworth pastor said the conservatives have a point, though he added that the resolution is unenforceable and a waste of time.

"'If you don't offer a risen Christ, you're not offering hope,' said the Rev. David Boda-Mercer of First Congregational Church of Haworth. 'If people are looking for answers, and they come to us and get a vague non-answer, but great food and musical programs, then I don't think we're helping them.'"

A belief in the totality of the gospel was as much a stumbling block in the early era of Christianity as it is for many today. But at least then the Christian Church stood for the whole truth. Guess the UCC is finally catching up with the Unitarians.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: ncc; religion; religiousleft; ucc; unitedchurchofchrist; warc
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1 posted on 07/05/2005 12:07:05 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

The pastor pretty much says all that needs to be said.


2 posted on 07/05/2005 12:10:17 PM PDT by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley Rocks!)
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To: Lorianne

Like the Holy Roman Empire, the United Church of Christ is neither united, nor a church, nor of Christ.


3 posted on 07/05/2005 12:12:51 PM PDT by Loyalist (No confidence in Mr. Dithers.)
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To: Lorianne

The United Church of "Christ, the Very Nice Guy".


4 posted on 07/05/2005 12:12:51 PM PDT by Nabber
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To: Nabber
The United Church of "Christ, the Very Nice Guy".

Unless someone finds that offensive.

5 posted on 07/05/2005 12:14:52 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Lorianne
United Church of Who
6 posted on 07/05/2005 12:15:45 PM PDT by LexBaird (tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: Loyalist

Ah heck, if it's what they believe, it's what they believe. Doesn't make a difference to this Roman Catholic. As long as they don't try to change our doctrine, I won't try to change their's.

Bigger fish for both churches to fry.


7 posted on 07/05/2005 12:16:32 PM PDT by Tulane
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To: Lorianne
A resolution affirming that Christ is Lord put forward in the United Church of Christ is not expected to pass.

Why on earth would this even be up for a vote?

"It is highly detrimental to the health and growth of UCC churches and extremely embarrassing for UCC pastors and members to be viewed as non-Christians,"

It should be more than embarrassing. If the UCC is not Christian (which, believe it or not, comes as no surprise), then what would be the point of its "growth"? What is, then, its mission?

the denomination has long been viewed as being a magnet for "Unitarians Considering Christ."

This is setting the bar pretty low. And in fact, it sounds like they are clearing the way for a merger with the unitarians.

the denomination now has "significant numbers of clergy who don’t believe in God."

Then what is its point? This is a denomination that will die, and no one will miss it.

8 posted on 07/05/2005 12:17:47 PM PDT by marron
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To: Lorianne
"Unitarians Considering Christ"

Was that serendipity, or intended posting of the Kerry waffle image below the topic? LOL

9 posted on 07/05/2005 12:18:20 PM PDT by Minnesocold
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To: Minnesocold

If this wasn't so stupid it would be tragic!


10 posted on 07/05/2005 12:30:31 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Tulane
Actually there aren't any bigger fish to fry. If a church wants to call itself "Christian" then the basic tennants are that 1)Jesus Christ was the son of God 2)the he walked the earth as a man 3)that he died and rose again 4)so that all who believed in Him could achieve salvation.

Jesus said, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

If a church does not believe those points, they are not a Christian church and their purpose is to lead people astray rather than toward the truth.

11 posted on 07/05/2005 12:35:39 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Lorianne

Shouldn't that be

of Whom?


12 posted on 07/05/2005 12:36:51 PM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: Lorianne

Many small Congregational Churches joined the UCC for economic reasons.There was no political agenda involved.
My guess is they will now sever their ties with the UCC.


13 posted on 07/05/2005 12:41:28 PM PDT by Cincinna (BEWARE HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Very well said.

Why not come out of the closet and admit they are a satanic cult misleading people.

14 posted on 07/05/2005 12:42:57 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: LexBaird

Sign me up. I needs me a Tardis and a young female companion. (And a robot dog would be cool too)


15 posted on 07/05/2005 12:43:37 PM PDT by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: Lorianne

If I heard correctly, yesterday it was announced on FNC that UCC became the largest denomination to support same-sex marriages.


16 posted on 07/05/2005 12:48:22 PM PDT by marvlus
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To: agrarianlady
Wha...?
17 posted on 07/05/2005 12:59:09 PM PDT by Doodle
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To: Cincinna

"Many small Congregational Churches joined the UCC for economic reasons.There was no political agenda involved.
My guess is they will now sever their ties with the UCC."

You got that right. Hopefully they'll be able to keep their property.



18 posted on 07/05/2005 1:01:49 PM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: freepertoo
Look at this fine example of the UCC flock:

SpongeBob enters the UCC's Church House. Despite Cleveland's chilly temperatures, he knows he'll be greeted warmly inside.

More here.

19 posted on 07/05/2005 1:04:41 PM PDT by Minnesocold
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