Posted on 07/05/2005 5:31:57 AM PDT by Bon mots
Why do you just throw insults around? Everyone has their own experiences and opinions....did I hit a nerve with you too?
You really do think highly of yourself, don't you?
No one here is being critical of your experiences; they're being critical of your solipsistic interpretation of those experiences.
Your thought processes remind me of a pre-enlightenment scientist expounding on how leaves wiggling on trees cause wind.
.....the circle of political ideology.....
Is this what you were refering to highball?
http://teacherweb.ftl.pinecrest.edu/crawfor/apcg/Unit3circle.htm
BINGO!!! Wow, God did know best after all. The keys to a successful marriage are written as plain as day, it just requires people to quit being selfish and self centered.
If you go in a marriage expecting it to fail then it is a self fulfilling prophesy. I personally wouldn't want to even consider someone as a marriage partner if that was how they think. The marriage is doomed with that kind of mindset.
LOL
Actually it might be more accurate to say that I know what commitment is and I eschew it at this point in my life having had enough of it. But thanks for the laugh ;-)
Excellent post and insight. Too many people think only of themselves and the almighty dollar as the number one priority in life. They are so wrong. Hopefully they will see the truth before they are old and all alone.
You attacked a whole bunch of things I did not say, but I note that you did not deny the point I did make. The traditional family is not compatible with a society in which women work in the marketplace. Try to deny that.
Talk about tacky and tasteless! Not all women are like that. Unfortunately though a lot are.
I dont know what side you are on, since your statement suports women working since that is congruent with most of todays society, so you seem to support women working.
The traditional family: a married couple with kids, is a very small part of this society, a small minority, consisting of less than 23.5% of American households.
Therefore, the traditional family, is pretty much insignificant to this discussion, dont ya think?
I'll grant you that there are particular families that are better off with the woman working, rather than the husband. But in general, two working parents doesn't work, and the husband staying at home doesn't work.
Given those statistical realities, it's not surprising that the family is declining at an accelerating pace.
I know. I was married to a much classier woman for 29 years. I don't blame anyone for feeling desperate and such a feeling can cloud judgment. Some single women over 40 feel a tremendous urge to marry and the demographics don't favor their chances. My attitude is fairly common among widowers I've met and that's not helping the situation I suppose but I just don't see a compelling reason to marry. Maybe that'll change.
Oh, so it's just the women who screw up the marriage. All I can say is you are full of it!
Insignificant to which discussion? That's what I was talking about--the traditional family.
If you want to ignore the traditional family and deal only with the nontraditional family, then it's kind of hard to make any generalizations since there really isn't any other standard template.
The only generalization you can make is that it doesn't seem to be working, as evidenced by the long list of societal ills, the vast majority of which can be traced directly to the breakdown of the family.
And when you start to talk about what needs to be done to save the nontraditional family, you really are lost because every nontraditional family has a different problem.
Women haven't been taught manners and decorum for a few years now and well, it paints those of us who have been taught the proper social graces in a bad light.
She can keep on waiting.
I have not encountered many women who would be content in a marriage with somebody who makes less than her.
Currently, there are lots of women professionals. SandyB probably knows a good number. Does anybody see female executives dating sanitation men? She might date a buff construction worker occasionally, but she won't let her friends meet him
What will happen is the excess educated women will die bitter and alone. The less educated men will still be able to find women. Men don't NEED a wife with a professional career as much as they need a woman who will love and respect them
Who do you think I got the idea from? :o)
Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Heaven knows I don't need a woman that doesn't love and respect me. Like I said, I have no interest in a relationship with a woman who has significantly greater career time demands than I do. I don't want an absentee galpal. I think its fine if they want to go their way, I just have no desire to be the man in their life.
Part of the deal of making the big bucks, unless you go your own way (like I did), is extraordinary time demands, difficulty in planning and keeping dates, dealing with the angst because of office politics, etc. I had no desire to do that myself, and I have no desire to deal with the residual angst from a romantic interest that has to navigate all that stuff.
Women like that should just meet men with a similar career, or with men who don't mind the disparity in lifestyles, and leave the rest of us alone.
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